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Old 02 November 2014 | 01:03 AM
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Might be a bit silly of me to bring this up, but it has been bothering me.

I bought a widetrack STi a year ago, and while it is all I ever wanted it got me wondering when looking at wrx prices recently. Mine was a good price (imo) at 7.5k for 70k miles with PPP in great condition. I have seen a similar wrx for 3.5k. That's 4k less, or 46% of the price.

Can you modify a wrx to surpass an STi for less than 4k? Why does the STi command a much higher price? Two 2005 wrx's for the price of 1 widetrack... doesn't seem right to me.

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Old 02 November 2014 | 03:17 AM
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If you're comparing WRX costs to non-widetrack STI costs it's more reasonable, as you're probably talking 3500 vs 5000 which is the cost of a second hand gearbox in itself (the gearbox is the main limiter on the WRX).

Widetrack command the extra premium because of the facelift interior, wider track and most of all (IMO) the DCCD. It's not impossible to mod all of those in, but added to the gearbox you're a long way to explaining the price gulf - not to mention supply and demand (the Widetrack is relatively rarer).

Widetrack prices are every so slightly creeping up, or at least holding station - from what I've seen.
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I bought a Widetrack 2 months back after researching & looking on-line for 9 months at Subaru's.

Essentially price was not an issue I wanted the 'best' in my eyes.

I looked at an RB320 & considered some of the Litchfield Type 20's that were for sale & even had a run in Cosworth CS400.

If you want a Subaru the newest you can buy that gives you.....

Reliability, Traditional Noise, DCCD, Cheap Tax. Exciting Power Delivery.

Is the 2005 Widetrack.

Strangely its not even a limited edition car but I guess it was only available for 9 months meaning they must be thin on the ground.
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If I can work out the above I am sure others can.

Also the new STI is getting quite a bit of press which gives more interest to older models. Especially when road-tests say the new car has not moved the game on in 10 years...... ie since 2004 when the STI Widetrack appeared.
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its not just the gearbox either lets not forget the brakes and the engine.
the engine is far stronger and also has avcs heads
Old 02 November 2014 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GH80
Might be a bit silly of me to bring this up, but it has been bothering me.

I bought a widetrack STi a year ago, and while it is all I ever wanted it got me wondering when looking at wrx prices recently. Mine was a good price (imo) at 7.5k for 70k miles with PPP in great condition. I have seen a similar wrx for 3.5k. That's 4k less, or 46% of the price.

Can you modify a wrx to surpass an STi for less than 4k? Why does the STi command a much higher price? Two 2005 wrx's for the price of 1 widetrack... doesn't seem right to me.

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Its like comparing a Ferrari and a MR2 Ferrari replica!! The MR2 rep might look like a Ferrari, but underneath its still a sh1tty little Jap car, and you will always wish you had the real thing!!!
Old 02 November 2014 | 10:52 PM
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Must be the law of diminishing returns. Also one spec C for 2 widetracks, or 4 wrx's!

I cant complain though, lets hope the prices are still high for standard well cared for cars when I go to sell. I too wanted the best car and the widetrack ticked all my boxes. Probably did too much reading here before I bought, but that wasn't a bad thing really. It just seems strange that one costs twice as much, but only has slight improvements in a number of different areas.



Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
Its like comparing a Ferrari and a MR2 Ferrari replica!! The MR2 rep might look like a Ferrari, but underneath its still a sh1tty little Jap car, and you will always wish you had the real thing!!!
But sti and wrx are both a sh1tty little Jap car! jk, I love mine really
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Lets not forget you get a larger bonnet scoop on the STI.
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Originally Posted by Fonzey

Widetrack prices are every so slightly creeping up, or at least holding station - from what I've seen.
Yep, mine was £6,500 for a fully serviced 65,000 mile Blob a few years back when everyone seemed to be losing their jobs. Prices have certainly strengthened since then.
Old 03 November 2014 | 05:50 PM
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Mine was £8,495 from a main dealer last year, full service history (67,000 miles) with one owner, 2006 model. Totally standard, but I'm slowly changing that!
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Deep breath.....

The WRX and STI are practically the same car anyhow!

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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
Deep breath.....

The WRX and STI are practically the same car anyhow!

so is the sport

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They all sound the same!
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
They all sound the same!
actually I'd say due to sioc a standard wrx will be worth a lot soon as they are responsibly for ruining a large percentage of them. only a few have escaped being christened a silly name and covered in stickers and upside down ashtrays.
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Serious answer to the OP.

You made the right choice buying a widetrack blob STI. The difference in price is worth far more than the parts difference to the lesser WRX model.

I purchased a WRX years ago and have since spent enough money upgrading it I could have purchased 3x blob STI widetracks!

The blob widetrack will always hold it's money IMO too. It's the best spec combination with bulletproof 2.0 engine, 6 speed, decent brakes and looks.

Stick with what you have.
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
Serious answer to the OP.

You made the right choice buying a widetrack blob STI. The difference in price is worth far more than the parts difference to the lesser WRX model.

I purchased a WRX years ago and have since spent enough money upgrading it I could have purchased 3x blob STI widetracks!

The blob widetrack will always hold it's money IMO too. It's the best spec combination with bulletproof 2.0 engine, 6 speed, decent brakes and looks.

Stick with what you have.
exactly what he said.

I too owned a Blob WRX and went to an STI and the difference is vastly noticable and worth the extra bang for a buck
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I have a jdm widetrack and can say it was worth the upgrade from my old wrx.
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
engine is far stronger
Barely.
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