Geoff P

My 22b is suffering seriously from a significant number of stone chips on the front of the bonnet and rear quarters. These chips are almost like the car has been peppered with a sand blaster, no large chips but loads of tiny ones. I have seen one other 22b with exactly the same amount of damage are there any other owners experiencing the same? Rumour is that as the cars were hand sprayed the paint work is unusually soft, do we think that we could have some recourse with IM ?
Geoff

paulmon

Join the club. I have exactly the same problem with my P1.

Paul

Geoff P

any other P1 owners having similar problems.
Geoff

Gastro

Ditto......P1, 4,500 miles
Mini mudflaps help though........
I've decided that the front spoiler will need a respray once a year to keep it looking any good......

Gastro

Dave Mackey

Geoff,

Sorry again Dito for the P1 looks worse after 9500miles than my MY98 did after 40K.

Gastro,
Mini mudflaps who supplies them ??

Dave

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Andrew O'Hara

Guys,

Don't have your bumper and lip spoiler resprayed. Go to your dealer and insist on a replacement under warranty....believe me it works and has done so already....good luck

ARRON BIRD

Me I`m looking for my second replacement soon.
Like I say 5hite quality.

Adam M

Don't think there should be a a link bewteen 22b and p1.

22B is painted on a separate production line because, once the bodywork is fitted, it doesnt fit through the paint baths at the factory.

P1 is just a type r which should go through as normal.

This means that if the problems is the paint it will affect all calls, and if it is just the paint on the 22b, then only 22bs.

The arches at the rear are more prone because they stick out. Chuck has this stone chip problem on his 22B, I dont on mine. No more than any other car I have had, but am planning to let it get worse on the bonnet and arches, tehn have it resprayed and armour fended in one go.

Blowdog, knows aof a company similar to armour fend who do a great job, so I shall be using their services once the situation worsens

Geoff P

I know that the 22's are painted seperately but it seems bloody strange that the underlying theme is Blue!
Just fitted GGR Mud flaps to mine (Red) Very loud not sure if I like them yet, but certainly will help stop the stone chips on the rear, s'pose I'll have to slow down a little in order to minimise the damage to the front edge of the bonnet.
Geoff

Gastro

Dave,
The mini-mudflaps are from prodrive £18 for 2..only for the front tho'.
There is a post on here about them.....but I also think that someone is making some very similiar ones for less....(again on the BBS again!!).....in fact !!:-

Mellow Yellow !

iTrader: (1)

I went into Robinsons of Rochdale today and they inspected my 3 week old P1's "peppered" front end and were happy to re-paint under I.M's warranty cover (after gaining the go ahead of course), I will be going one step further though and will be having clear protective strips placed in strategic positions over the car !

MTR

Gastro,
Similar mini mud flaps, wash your mouth out, they are BETTER.
And Prodrive didn't offer to sell theirs until I posted detailed instructions on how I made my own.

Cheers MTR

pslewis

1 Year old MY00, DBM, Sandblasted front too

If I looked at my car with a view to buy I would think it had been clocked!! at 13,000miles of non-motorway driving no car looks this bad!!

Add to that the flimsy steel panels and the ripples and dents and you havent exactly got a desirable 12 month old car have you??????

Pete

PAUL GEE

The P1 paint problem is one that has been mentioned by lots of different owners over months and months now. My 22B has covered 55K, and I have been extremely impressed by the 'lack' of major stone chips of any description (particularly the front spoiler).
In my opinion the paint work is first class. Can't understand why the P1 should be any different but perhaps it is?

me

Hi guys. I've just had my P1 Armourfended. It ain't cheap at 400 quid, but it will keep my front end (so to speak) looking good for years. Obviously it will get the odd chip, but hay that's all part of motoring. Anyway if you look at any make of car new or old there will always be chips on it somewhere. Especially fast ones. It somehow never seems as bad when it's not your car though!

Timo

I have the same type of chips on mine MY98TypeR in 555 new rally blue (or Sonic I think in the UK) it is not because of soft paint..excess chipping (large) is because of hard paint but the peppering you describe is seen on any performance car around the wheel arch and bottom half areas.I painted a TVR and a Ferarri 355 in the last couple of weeks with exactly the same problem as my typeR...the worst problem I find is having the alloy bonnet as when a stone hits it at speed it dents slightly too. As for you getting paintwork done under warrenty well thats up to the dealer I guess! I will get round to see your 22B Geoff but just been too busy this last week!

Timo

RoShamBo

iTrader: (1)

Not sure if this has been said before but sonic blue seems to be a very soft paint.
Terzo/22b/P1's etc all seem to suffer from stone chips. There was a debate a while ago about how soft this particular paint colour seems to be. Try doing a search.

Ro.

Geoff P

If I was driving a £35K Merc and experienced the same problem I would be kicking my dealers door down to sort it out. I feel that because we are only driving Subarus we are expected to put up with this, this is poor customer service! Not tried speaking to IM yet but my local dealer is unable to pacify me.
Geoff

Andrew O'Hara

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Mellow Yellow !:
<B>I went into Robinsons of Rochdale today and they inspected my 3 week old P1's "peppered" front end and were happy to re-paint under I.M's warranty cover (after gaining the go ahead of course), I will be going one step further though and will be having clear protective strips placed in strategic positions over the car ![/quote]

M-Y, dont accept a respray, the car is only 3 weeks old for Gods sake, insist they change it under warranty, the bumper and lip spoiler and the spot light surrounds were changed on mine and it is a 7 month old car, this is unacceptable on a £30K car

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dfullerton

i am a paint sprayer to and yes hard paint is the cause.

ANDY330

and heres me with my 330bhp Cossie, 12 years old, no chips etc, none of this scoob 5hite!

Dave T-S

MY00, DBM, no chips to speak of despite the fact a two mile stretch of local road I use twice a day was spray tarred and loose chipped the week after I got it, and still hasn't been swept properly - but I hate tailgaters and don't do it myself....the bonnet chips come from other traffic (some of which is going in the other direction however)

AS the chaps in the trade say (and an ex sprayer myself), chips are a result of hard paint, not soft

Timo

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by ANDY330:
<B>and heres me with my 330bhp Cossie, 12 years old, no chips etc, none of this scoob 5hite! [/quote]

Yeh great andy but watch your head dont warp when your eatin a scoobys dust!! anyhow its the rust coming from inside to out you have to watch on the old dagenam dustbins!
gags over...wot you got a 3door or a saf?