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Old 17 January 2016 | 08:59 PM
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I've recently got a new sti , 2002 prodrive ,
And it's come with 18 inch rotar gtr's that are very wide ! 8 inch I think
Now it's running stretched tires which I think on a car with 350 horsepower is ridiculous so it's going in tomorrow for 4 new ones !
My problem is when I have someone in the back or if i boot it it scrapes on the back , it's got kyb shock absorbers and eibach lowering springs , I realise when I get the new tires on its probably going to scrape Moore as the wheels stick out about 10mm past the arches,
The easiest thing to do would be to get rid of the wheels I know this ,but if I was to get some good coilovers would it make a significant difference in the scraping ? Are coilovers much stiffer than kyb shocks ? I know a bit about coilovers but not kyb shocks - I guess there just the same as standard sti shocks ? I want to keep the wheels but eliminate the scraping

Any advice about what to do will be appreciated
Old 17 January 2016 | 09:02 PM
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U see my predicament
Old 17 January 2016 | 10:41 PM
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Is it not an MOT fail with the wheels being beyond the arches?
Old 17 January 2016 | 10:58 PM
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Is it just catching on the arch lip?

I'm running eibach springs with standard shocks, 8j wheel and 225 tyres. I used to get a little rub when people were in the back so I had the arch lip professionally rolled and its cured the problem no more rubbing.

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Old 17 January 2016 | 11:11 PM
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Is it not an MOT fail with the wheels being beyond the arches?
Don't take me as gospel, but I think it's if it sticks out more then an inch past the furthest part of the arch. Proper size tyres is only going to make that worse. Using coilovers to stop the scraping is going to mean a very hard ride. Personally I'd swap the wheels for something the correct fitment. It'll look better and handle better.
Old 17 January 2016 | 11:22 PM
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Is it just catching on the arch lip?

I'm running eibach springs with standard shocks, 8j wheel and 225 tyres. I used to get a little rub when people were in the back so I had the arch lip professionally rolled and its cured the problem no more rubbing.

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Yea mate it just catches from time to time , but with people in the back when I boot it its a constant scrape
It does only seem to be on one side tho so many a shock has gone or a spring ?
Old 17 January 2016 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxmargy
Yea mate it just catches from time to time , but with people in the back when I boot it its a constant scrape
It does only seem to be on one side tho so many a shock has gone or a spring ?
Exactly same as me mate on the drivers side only!

Like I say I had the arch lip rolled up ever so slightly and it has cleared it and u cat tell anything has changed to the eye
Old 17 January 2016 | 11:32 PM
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Get a new set of wheels or cut the races up and fit a wide arch kit.
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Is it not an MOT fail with the wheels being beyond the arches?
I don't know mate I've only just got the car and they came on the car , been reading up and it seems cars pass with the wheels protruding as long as it doesn't foul the car in any way when on full lock
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Originally Posted by Willowsdad
Don't take me as gospel, but I think it's if it sticks out more then an inch past the furthest part of the arch. Proper size tyres is only going to make that worse. Using coilovers to stop the scraping is going to mean a very hard ride. Personally I'd swap the wheels for something the correct fitment. It'll look better and handle better.
Yea mate I'm debating it , they do look good tho 😢
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Originally Posted by wrxmargy
Yea mate I'm debating it , they do look good tho 😢
Are they 8j wheels? Mine don't seem to stick out anywhere near as much as ur pic?
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If the previous own was into the stretched look then might he have fitted spacers as well to emphasise the look? May be worth taking a wheel off for a look see
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They must either have spacers on or be wider than 8j surely ?
In the pic they look like they poke out further than my 9.5j wheels which on coilovers don't rub at all without being too hard a ride
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Originally Posted by Brun
If the previous own was into the stretched look then might he have fitted spacers as well to emphasise the look? May be worth taking a wheel off for a look see
I'll have a look tomorrow bud thanks , was thinking that before lol
Old 18 January 2016 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Neeko1988
Are they 8j wheels? Mine don't seem to stick out anywhere near as much as ur pic?
Yea mate on th invoice it says 18×8.0 5100 et35
Old 18 January 2016 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Big sparks
They must either have spacers on or be wider than 8j surely ?
In the pic they look like they poke out further than my 9.5j wheels which on coilovers don't rub at all without being too hard a ride

I'll have a look but yea there just 8j according to the invoice ,, don't mean to sound dumb but what's the j stand for
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Originally Posted by wrxmargy
I'll have a look but yea there just 8j according to the invoice ,, don't mean to sound dumb but what's the j stand for
Yeah defo worth a check mate ,
The j stands for the bead profile I.e j = passenger vehicle 👍🏻
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Originally Posted by Big sparks
Yeah defo worth a check mate ,
The j stands for the bead profile I.e j = passenger vehicle 👍🏻
Just went out for a look now mate no spacers 😯 think it's just going to be new wheels , they look ace but there no good for getting giddy with !
Old 18 January 2016 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by wrxmargy
Just went out for a look now mate no spacers 😯 think it's just going to be new wheels , they look ace but there no good for getting giddy with !








That does surprise me mate to be fair , these are my 9.5j's for example , although a slight lip/arch roll might enable you to keep them and be happy with the fit and ride etc , might just be the pic that makes yours look so wide lol 👍🏻
Old 18 January 2016 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Big sparks






That does surprise me mate to be fair , these are my 9.5j's for example , although a slight lip/arch roll might enable you to keep them and be happy with the fit and ride etc , might just be the pic that makes yours look so wide lol 👍🏻
Does seem strange that pic though as they seem to stick out more than ur 9.5j
Old 18 January 2016 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Neeko1988
Does seem strange that pic though as they seem to stick out more than ur 9.5j
I may have worked it out , the bloke before me had them fit and on the invoice it says rotar gtr's, well the ones on my car aren't gtr's, so he must have swapped them with the rotar which are on it now , there's also a pic floating about of my car with gtr's on so these wheels need to be measured , how do you think the car would cope with 8.5 inch wide wheels on ? Seen some really nice ones but just want to be able to drive the bloody car properly 😂
Old 18 January 2016 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Neeko1988
Does seem strange that pic though as they seem to stick out more than ur 9.5j
Just measured them from the back of the wheel to the front and they measure 10 inch !!!!!!
Old 18 January 2016 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxmargy
Just measured them from the back of the wheel to the front and they measure 10 inch !!!!!!
I thought so as mine are 8j and didn't seem to stick out as much as urs
Old 18 January 2016 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Neeko1988
I thought so as mine are 8j and didn't seem to stick out as much as urs
How do you think 8.5 will be ? Do yours scrape or anything daft ?
Old 18 January 2016 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxmargy
How do you think 8.5 will be ? Do yours scrape or anything daft ?
My 8j with 225 were 95% of the time ok. If I had two people in the back and took a corner slightly quick it would rub slightly on the lip. Like I say tho I have had the lip slightly rolled and it is perfect. Bear in mind I have got eibach sprigs on aswell so lower than standard height and they are 18"s
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Are they rota force drifts then ? That would make more sense ,
I would hazard a guess they are 9.5j with a low offset .
8.5j's will be all good mate especially if you go with coilovers ;-)
Old 18 January 2016 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Big sparks
Are they rota force drifts then ? That would make more sense ,
I would hazard a guess they are 9.5j with a low offset .
8.5j's will be all good mate especially if you go with coilovers ;-)
Yea mate I think they are , I wish I could shrink them 😢 I think they will sell ok tho to fund the new ones I'm going to get , have you got any recommendations ? I like the concave look
Cheers pal
Old 18 January 2016 | 08:31 PM
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Also what's the cracks with the offset, does it have to be et35 on my car ? Or can I get et48 don't understand offset lol
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Originally Posted by wrxmargy
Also what's the cracks with the offset, does it have to be et35 on my car ? Or can I get et48 don't understand offset lol
Et48 is fine mate
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Originally Posted by Neeko1988
Et48 is fine mate
Would rota pwr's fit ? 18×8.5's et38
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