Something I suspect we've all done at one time or another.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/...-died-11500720

Made me think anyway.

 

Made me think that the only person responsible for Mr Charlton's death was Mr Charlton.
It takes two to tango.

 

Top c@nt!

 

I agree, if there was some sort of contact then there may have been an argument for spreading the responsibility of the crash that killed him,
But as said before, if the guy who died wasn`t being forced at gun point to do it who but himself can be blamed for this, his brakes and accelerator were controlled by no one else but himself,
Im sorry at the loss of life, but to blame someone else, and he will probably get found guilty, as a few have now over the years, is just wrong.

 

THIS.SJ.

 

No one forced him to speed, the pedal was under HIS foot and his lack of skill caused his death

Why not blame the BMW driver for lane hogging???
If the BMW was in the correct lane, they could have both passed safely on the correct side

 

And This...

.SJ.

 

Good point this....

If the BMW was in the appropriate Lane then there would have been no need for the manoeuvre....

My friend was actually up in court for something similar a while back. And exactly the points above, no one forced the other guy to race and they never made contact, the other car over took on a blind bend and had a head on with another car. No one forced him to do that move....

 

Who says the BMW was lane hogging? It could have quite legitimately been in the middle lane.

 

Its' sad to blame the other driver (even though it is true he probably did 'instigate' the race), but i do agree with both sides of the arguement. It is undeniably true that if the race was not instigated the lad would not have died. Same for the fact he did not give up when he could not overtake. BUt again i 100% agree that it does take two and the unfortunate lad did make a conscious decision to race and he has contributed to his own death.

I couldnt be a judge on this one. Personally I know the limits of my driving and my car and I'm constantly planning 1-200m (or more) up the road. I dont really ever drive 'spirited' but like in this lads situation if someone wants a quick street drag my brain usually obliges.. Stupid I know..

 

How did the othe driver instigate the race? The article says he pulled out to overtake, then the civic sped up, seems the civic driver didnt let the other guy overtake and caused the crash.

The other driver is being used as a scapegoat.

 

The one good thing we can say about this is that the only casualty was one of the drivers in this crazy race. As I user of that stretch of the A1 from time to time with kids in the car, I would hate to think of what could have happened....

 

Own fault. Just killed himself....the end.

 

This.

The other driver is not to blame at all. No one forced him to drive like that. And it was all because he was trying to be Billy big bollocks and refused to slow down when approaching a hazard it happened.

He could have eased off and just let the golf go. And accepted he got beat. But he just couldnt let it go.....

 

i wouldnt say the other drivers is without blame, they are both to blame.

they could of killed others but luckily they didnt but only because of sheer luck.

one man died, the other will have to live with this for the rest of his life.

a very harsh lesson for both.

 

It's clear the VW driver used the BMW to gain an advantage by blocking, in itself an act of dangerous driving.
Trev

 

he will be found guilty of death by dangerous driving i assume, which is pretty fair given what happened.

a harsh lesson for all involved and makes you think.

 

I pass this stretch of the A1 frequent , it's a straight piece of road climbing the hill ( Bowes incline , until you reach the top then 2 motorways join / he crashed half way up the hill / 4 lanes with the near side been a on / off ramp for 2 junctions - looks like e must have been over steering heavily at speed lane dodging & lost it / as said own fault
Ep3's are $hite at speed & the back end goes light very quickly ( guy ran out of talent - then life .....

 

Why should this be blamed on the other guy when there is no evidence that he "instigated the race". This is obviously just put in place so no one races and he will be made as an example of what happens when you race, unfortunately.

Both of them. :/

RIP

 

And as for "blocking him in" there is no requirement to give way when you are passing someone?

How can it be the other guys fault? The guy tried to be Billy big bollocks and wouldn't give it. The red mist came down and he paid the ultimate price....

 

It's a bit daft to start quoting codes of the road when the only legal place for what both drivers were doing is on a race track under strict racing rules.

 

You were quoting rules of the road, I just pointed out its not quite right...

It was a very silly thing to do and at the end of the day one of them lost out. It's not the other guys fault that the bloke didn't slow down and decided to pull a manoeuvre he wasn't talented enough to pull off

 

Very sad such a waste of a young life RIP

 

He was obv driving outside of his capabilities. Suppose if you're driving like a dick you have to expect the worst too.

 

No coming back from it thou bud no second chance to make things right poor lad is gone

 

vtec............................no!

 

If he wasn't hogging the middle lane, why move left when he sees 2 cars catching him up?

Keep left unless overtaking
If someone can pass you on the left, you are in the wrong lane

 

TT/FatThomas, your're ******* disgusting, a lad has lost his life and your taking the p1ss of his car.

Sad pathetic ****.

How low can you go?

 

civics aren't stable at high speed. fact!
Not many cars can change direction suddenly at 100mph+, if the driver touched the brakes it would have made things worse

It's lucky that the civic driver only killed himself, crashes like this usually kill innocent people and the driver survives with minor injuries

 

the problem with high speed on our roads is that it takes away any reaction time from other road users. The talent is not getting into the situation in the first place, not dealing with a totally unpredictable situation once in it.