These days everyone pushing power, particularly in classics has done 6speed conversions, myself included.
Out of curiosity does Anyone still run the PPG gearboxes that everyone used to have?
In particular the dog engagement boxes.

Just asking out of curiosity

Joe

 

Yep two of them. Dog and synchro.

 

And how have you got on with them?

 

yes

synchro box for last 2 years

 

No bother whatsoever with syncro the dogbox you daren't sit in with anyone else driving

 

Why is that Joe? Just nervous watching other people operate it?
What power levels do you run them at??

 

Had 2 a synchro and a dog.
Broke the dog box buy synchro was sound.
Have another synchro sitting in my garage good to go.
Can't beat the sound of straight cut if you ask me

 

Are they fragile ?

 

How did you break it ?

 

Granny shifting.
I needs a very positive gear change.
Basically requires you to drive it like you stole it

 

Answers above are 100%

 

i am running Ciarans old box with no issues

 

IMO dog boxes are for competition use only, not sure why you would ever want or need one for road use and the cost to maintain them correctly needs to be factored in also

 

They do a ppg 5 speed synchro ?

How does this compare with a 6 speed setup ?

 

Yes comes In synchromesh and straight or helical cut.
I personally find the 5 speed gear change and ratios better for the road

In hindsight your correct Alyn. We all live and learn

 

What about power ?

What the synchro 5 speed safe to ?

 

5 speed Straight Cut box here but the car spends a lot of time on the track

 

How is it on road ?

 

I still use my ppg synchro box. Been using it for years on track days. No issues and driven hard.

 

Can the helical ones be used with a DCCD box? I'm guessing so, but if I ever hike the power in my Type R this is the route I'd rather take over a 6 speed.

Also are they available in different ratios?

 

DCCD is just the tail casing you can bolt that to any type of box, I think they are only available with UK ratios (well thats what they used to be). They normally break on a launch do the PPG boxes so if road use and track work you should be ok

 

I've broken a PPG years ago with a launch, but was told that was due to a bad batch.

Unfortunate about the UK ratios, back to the drawing board then.

 

ratio listed on the site: 3.18 / 1.87 / 1.32 / 0.95 / std

 

Whines like a dog on heat!