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Old 09 August 2016, 06:19 PM
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Default Anyone still using PPG 5 speed gearboxes?
These days everyone pushing power, particularly in classics has done 6speed conversions, myself included.
Out of curiosity does Anyone still run the PPG gearboxes that everyone used to have?
In particular the dog engagement boxes.

Just asking out of curiosity

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Old 09 August 2016, 07:10 PM
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Yep two of them. Dog and synchro.
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Old 09 August 2016, 09:07 PM
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And how have you got on with them?
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Old 09 August 2016, 10:17 PM
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synchro box for last 2 years
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Old 09 August 2016, 10:24 PM
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No bother whatsoever with syncro the dogbox you daren't sit in with anyone else driving
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Old 09 August 2016, 10:49 PM
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Why is that Joe? Just nervous watching other people operate it?
What power levels do you run them at??
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Old 09 August 2016, 10:59 PM
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Had 2 a synchro and a dog.
Broke the dog box buy synchro was sound.
Have another synchro sitting in my garage good to go.
Can't beat the sound of straight cut if you ask me
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No bother whatsoever with syncro the dogbox you daren't sit in with anyone else driving
Are they fragile ?
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Originally Posted by Ciaran
Had 2 a synchro and a dog.
Broke the dog box buy synchro was sound.
Have another synchro sitting in my garage good to go.
Can't beat the sound of straight cut if you ask me
How did you break it ?
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
How did you break it ?
Granny shifting.
I needs a very positive gear change.
Basically requires you to drive it like you stole it
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Answers above are 100%
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i am running Ciarans old box with no issues
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IMO dog boxes are for competition use only, not sure why you would ever want or need one for road use and the cost to maintain them correctly needs to be factored in also
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They do a ppg 5 speed synchro ?

How does this compare with a 6 speed setup ?
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
They do a ppg 5 speed synchro ?

How does this compare with a 6 speed setup ?
Yes comes In synchromesh and straight or helical cut.
I personally find the 5 speed gear change and ratios better for the road

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IMO dog boxes are for competition use only, not sure why you would ever want or need one for road use and the cost to maintain them correctly needs to be factored in also
In hindsight your correct Alyn. We all live and learn
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Originally Posted by Ciaran
Yes comes In synchromesh and straight or helical cut.
I personally find the 5 speed gear change and ratios better for the road



In hindsight your correct Alyn. We all live and learn
What about power ?

What the synchro 5 speed safe to ?
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Originally Posted by joe v3sti
These days everyone pushing power, particularly in classics has done 6speed conversions, myself included.
Out of curiosity does Anyone still run the PPG gearboxes that everyone used to have?
In particular the dog engagement boxes.

Just asking out of curiosity

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5 speed Straight Cut box here but the car spends a lot of time on the track
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Old 11 August 2016, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
5 speed Straight Cut box here
How is it on road ?
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Old 18 August 2016, 01:33 PM
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I still use my ppg synchro box. Been using it for years on track days. No issues and driven hard.
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Old 18 August 2016, 02:51 PM
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Can the helical ones be used with a DCCD box? I'm guessing so, but if I ever hike the power in my Type R this is the route I'd rather take over a 6 speed.

Also are they available in different ratios?
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Old 18 August 2016, 02:53 PM
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DCCD is just the tail casing you can bolt that to any type of box, I think they are only available with UK ratios (well thats what they used to be). They normally break on a launch do the PPG boxes so if road use and track work you should be ok
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I've broken a PPG years ago with a launch, but was told that was due to a bad batch.

Unfortunate about the UK ratios, back to the drawing board then.
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ratio listed on the site: 3.18 / 1.87 / 1.32 / 0.95 / std
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
How is it on road ?
Whines like a dog on heat!
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