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Old 31 August 2016, 03:11 PM
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Default Oil Temperature - what's good/bad/ugly?

Had this on my mind for a while as I'm yet to find a temp range that people agree on.

My Type R is the following
2.5 Forged short block with newage wrx ported heads
Stock V9 oil pump
Stock Oil modine/cooler etc
Millers CFS 10w50 + gen filter

At the moment I currently see 85-90 degree oil temps (via sensor above cylinder 3) under normal driving conditions, 10 mins of short bursts/spirited driving will see 100-110 degrees.

The Millers site quotes the following
"Use for competition, modified and high performance engines. Suitable for all normally aspirated and turbo-charged engines from 2 litres upwards. CFS 10w50 is especially suited to modified, high performance vehicles, with or without turbochargers, for fast road and track day use. Suitable for operating at 125°C with peak temperatures up to 150°C."

With this in mind, should I be concerned if my temps head towards 120 degrees? I've set my toucan warning at 115. While I like to enjoy the car, I dont drive on the ragged edge everywhere and have rarely seen 100+ degrees on it. I've heard of people seeing 125 degrees before a bottom end so I'd like to know what people feel is a safe limit.

I know this is possibly going to be a thread with a variety of opinions, similar to the "what oil should I put in" posts so I'm prepared for some diversity.
Old 31 August 2016, 03:22 PM
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Your oil temps are the same as mine, 90ish normal, 100-110, spirited, I have a GB270.
Old 31 August 2016, 03:35 PM
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I say 110 as its the highest I've ever seen. If I was to continue further I'm not sure what I'd peak at but have mechanical sympathy so once I start seeing 100+ I tend to ease off til it returns to mid 90's.
Old 31 August 2016, 03:40 PM
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Mine sits at between 80-95deg. Highest I've seen it is 105 which was on a hot day in motorway traffic.
Old 31 August 2016, 03:54 PM
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Extremely subjective oil temps...aftermarket/bigger turbos heat everything up a lot quicker than a VF etc...
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120-130 then you need a oil cooler, otherwise don't worry
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My factory fitted cooler has never seen over 110...infact I have my alarm on the defis set at 100 and it's only gone off once, Never did at totb either
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Originally Posted by The Pink Ninja
My factory fitted cooler has never seen over 110...infact I have my alarm on the defis set at 100 and it's only gone off once, Never did at totb either
Where is your temperature reading taken from chap?
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The block under the turbo, Cyl 3....where it should be mate but like I said it all depends if it's a bigger turbo and big power as this makes the oil hotter quicker with prolonged use, I'm still on a standard turbo

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Originally Posted by The Pink Ninja
The block under the turbo, Cyl 3....where it should be mate but like I said it all depends if it's a bigger turbo and big power as this makes the oil hotter quicker with prolonged use, I'm still on a standard turbo
Ah same as me then. Mines on a larger FP Green Hybrid @ 1.6 bar tho so would explain why i'm seeing higher.
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LM450 Hawk here. On a hot day at Curborough I was up to 120 within two laps. Similar within 15 mins on a hillclimb in Spain. Oil cooler now fitted. Personally would not be comfortable going above 120 for any length of time, and would change the oil right after.
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Originally Posted by TypeR99
Ah same as me then. Mines on a larger FP Green Hybrid @ 1.6 bar tho so would explain why i'm seeing higher.
Yep that's what I'd say, happens with a lot of higher power cars, I know a few lads running 450+ and same story
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your temps look spot on for a standard let alone tuned scoob-during the cooler months when the ambient temp are 10-15 degrees cooler you.ll probably only see only see 100
degrees-if you fit a cooler dont forget to get a thermostatic plate to stop overcooling and wrap the lines where they cross the headers- the cooler will hold an extra litre or so and the dipstick will show an inch or so higher on the dipstick, sounds like a good spec car that
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Originally Posted by TypeR99
I say 110 as its the highest I've ever seen. If I was to continue further I'm not sure what I'd peak at but have mechanical sympathy so once I start seeing 100+ I tend to ease off til it returns to mid 90's.
do you monitor EGT's ?
110 seems high if it's road work
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I rarely saw over 100 on my vf35,

Now with sc42 sits around 90-95 on cruise, can see 110 pretty quickly when going for it,
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One of the cheapest mods to bring your oil temps down is a mishimoto racing thermosta works very well...
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I was advised 110 was about as hot as you want and that's about where I set my Defi alarm. Never had any issues. I think it got to about 110 after some spirited driving in Germany with some other scoobs in August temperatures, no higher though.

Measured on cylinder 3.
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