aceifty

Hi can anyone recommend where I can get my bugeye wrx 5sp gearbox rebuilt and upgraded. I don't won't to splash out on the 6sp.

My car is running about 340hp and about 340ft-Ib torque.

Would prefer a place close to Birmingham but could travel.

Need it it done as soon as, don't won't to be using my bros evo, miss driving the scooby.

all help is appreciated and thank you in advance.

ConRod95

Could talk to Mark at TDR in Warwick, mentions gearbox rebuilds on his website. Only been to him once to help me diagnose an issue with my car, but seems like a decent bloke and comes well recommended.

NOSSY_89

Was going to say I'm on the look out as my gearbox has given up. Put it up in the other section but no response. But then saw you mention your brother and realised who you were lol.

Hows it going mate was speaking to your other brother and was saying to him we had our cars mapped about the same time and within a week of each other the gearbox fails.

Was looking at rebuilding but they go based on cost it just isn't worth it. I know a guy on here selling a blob gearbox but wasn't sure if I need anything else to make it fit my car and haven't really got money as I lost my job again.

Spoke to Matty as well but he hasn't got any 5 speeds in.

TECHNOPUG

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I think it's a false economy to be honest. How much qualifed data is there to the limits of modified 5 speeds, compared to 6 speed boxes? How expensive is it to get a modded 5-speed only to discover that it's still weak and have to replace again, rather than simply fit a 6-speed with a known threshold?

So I'd suggest either go straight to 6-speed, fit and forget. Or just stick with cheap 5 speeds and replace when required, like a service item. Or modify your driving....340lbs/ft won't cause a 5-speed to suddenly explode. If you are launching the car and going WOT from low revs the maybe try some more mechanically sypathetic driving.

banny sti

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You have to pay to play simple as that, if you want to upgrade a 5 speed box it aint cheap

https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-par...o-gearbox.html

NOSSY_89

Whats the going rate on a 6 speed and yeah like you say that level of bhp won't kill it straight away. However these cars are meant to be driven and I haven't done any launches. Was no real need to because the gearbox was on its way out but if I go to the track will want to do it there.

TECHNOPUG

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£1500 fitted sounds reasonable. Depends on things like clutch/flywheel etc.

scoobypaul_temp

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£1500 fitted - I think you might want to add at least another £500 on there:

I have just had the 6 speed conversion done on my Blob wagon (its my 5 speed Blob gearbox that Nossy is reffering to above.

6 Speed non-dccd conversion package from Subaru City was £1900 incl flywheel

Labour to remove 5 Speed and fit 6 speed was 4 hours

Plus whichever clutch you decide to run

You might pickup a conversion package for around £1500 if you are lucky (I have seen some) but you still have to add labour / uprated / new clutch on top

TECHNOPUG

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So equivalent to 5/6 5-speed replacements

scoobypaul_temp

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Yep

You are absolutely right in what you say here though:

Or just stick with cheap 5 speeds and replace when required, like a service item. Or modify your driving....340lbs/ft won't cause a 5-speed to suddenly explode. If you are launching the car and going WOT from low revs the maybe try some more mechanically sypathetic driving.

If I hadn't upgraded my power so much, I would have stuck with the 5 speed - numerous people running them up to (and sometimes above) 350 no problem.

trevsjwood

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so they only charged you 4 hours labour to remove and replace the whole drivetrain?
Trev

scoobypaul_temp

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I was only using that as a guide - but yes that is what is listed on my invoice - it is part of a bigger piece of work (engine conversion etc)

trevsjwood

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I was charged £600+ vat for labour, this wasn't a Subaru specialist garage but Superior Cars in Northampton who have a good reputation. Charging for heating up seized stuff at £50 a point was lumped in. Felt it was high but not good to look back on expenditure with the Scooby
Trev

banny sti

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600 + vat is on the expensive side but if you've used subaru city for the labour and build the only thing I will say is *facepalm*

scoobypaul_temp

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I didn't use them for the work - just the parts

Work was done by RM Performance, a top bunch who I wouldn't hesitate to recommend

aceifty

Been to Mark a few times, he mapped the car. Spoke to him when he mapped it as I knew I will need a box due to my driving. He suggested to stick with the 5sp unless I have money to through away and get a 6sp setup for about 1.5k-2 where the 5sp will be about 200-300 and my time on fitting

aceifty

I'm fine bro, what about you. My bro was saying the same thing. I'm gutted as now I have 3 car that need a box and limited ££££

aceifty

its got launch control mapped in but have not used it, normally I do drive normal but at time like to rag it. On the day I I took it to about 5k in 1st put in to 2nd and bang for a bit I thought it was the engine knocking but it's not. The gear stick was in neutral position but the box was still engaged in gear. Had to smak the stick to get the box in neutral. I tried to drive it in to my unit and it will move about a few inches and the seem like it's hit a wall, had to give it some gas and dab the clutch to get it moving eventually clutch started burning. Iv not looked in to it as was pissed off and was loosing my cool do just locked her up in the unit and left.

aceifty

Iv been offered a box with blast plates on it off a 53 plate blob for 450 and 500 with the diff.

Is is that a good price, what power/torque can they handle and do the blast plats make any difference.

TECHNOPUG

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If you think that blast plates work the it's a good price. If you don't think they work, then it's an awful price....

There is only theory and anecdotal evidence AFAIK. I'd suggest it's a question of faith

aceifty

iv done some research on the blast plats and all is good. The box has covered about 8k after a recon.

looks like I might just go for it.
Shoulf I take the matching diff

TECHNOPUG

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Before you spend any money...

https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=665334

NOSSY_89

On the job hunt bro. Yeah your bro was saying you have a few cars that need a gearbox

Not sure if you will need another diff. Have a look at this site it tells you the different ratios

http://www.gearhack.com/myink/ViewPa...ission%20Chart

If you put a newage 5 speed into a classic do you need to change the driveshaft or anything else.

aceifty

im going to see if I can get a 5sp classic sti box with rear diff, apparently it's a straight fit and can handle up to 450hp. That's what iv been told on one of the scoobies Facebook page.

once we both get card sorted we should go for a drive.

aceifty

If you put a newage 5sp in your classic I'm sure you will need change the shafts etc.

Are you gonna go for more power or just leave it as is?
if you leave it as is then looked for a classic sti 5sp box with rear diff.
give Ian a call at pole position, spoke to him about a week ago and he has a few boxes but not sure if he has the classic sti box.

aceifty

that is very interesting, thanks

banny sti

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The sti TY754 v5/6/P1 box is the strongest of the classic sti boxes, they have lasted for some people but even then there is no guarantee for them to last once you are at mid 300s torque wise.

NOSSY_89

Yeah deffo we need to get to some shows and do some national speed limit roads as well.

I didn't think any of the normal 5 speed could handle that much and the hawk 5 speed was good to about 380bhp which is the strongest out the lot. Was told that by Matty and Andy. Unless the guy who told you was on about a modded version. Last thing either one of us wants to do is have to replace it a month down the line.

Injectors are just about maxed out. Haven't got money to get more power out of it but I'm sure it has more. So ideally 6 speed would be the route I should take with it.

aceifty

there's a chap on one of the scooby Facebook pages with a wrx bugeye with the classic sti box and the rear diff, according to him the later classic sti box is good up to 450hp.

im just waiting on Ian from pole position to see what he was. Missed out on a complete 6sp for 1.3k

aceifty

If not I'll probably just fit the blob box. If I didn't need to spend money on my E30 I would've went 6sp and no more issues.

ill just will have to Chang the way I shift.