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Old 05 October 2018 | 01:52 PM
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Hi Scoobsters, just after a bit of advice.
Firstly, my budget is quiet small, it will be anywhere between £6.5-7.5k maybe a touch higher.
I will be looking to buy a car within the next couple of weeks.What I need advice on is, if im gonna be using the car as my main daily (home to work and back = 100 miles a week), would you buy a clean very low mileage for example 35-50k mileage WRX or a high mileage (100k~) STI??Which would be better for a daily, whats more reliable and interms of running costs do they differ much?
ps I wont be doing any trackdays or racing etc
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Originally Posted by Discover
Hi Scoobsters, just after a bit of advice.
Firstly, my budget is quiet small, it will be anywhere between £6.5-7.5k maybe a touch higher.
I will be looking to buy a car within the next couple of weeks.What I need advice on is, if im gonna be using the car as my main daily (home to work and back = 100 miles a week), would you buy a clean very low mileage for example 35-50k mileage WRX or a high mileage (100k~) STI??Which would be better for a daily, whats more reliable and interms of running costs do they differ much?
ps I wont be doing any trackdays or racing etc
thanks
sti all day long, stronger engine and stronger gearbox. Don't worry about mileage too much just make sure it's been well looked after,if there are any performance modifications done to it make sure they have mapped in and check cambelt history.

It's a 6 speed in the sti so better for mpg on a long run but be warned.......the mpg is pretty bad in a Subaru which ever model you get.

For £7k-£8k you should be looking at the 2003-2005 blobeye model sti or a nice prodrive bugeye sti.

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As above, running costs will be the same between the 2 models. I have used my Subarus for the last 12 years as daily drivers and loved every moment of them. My first was a standard WRX when I purchased it from Subaru which I loved massively, but ended up spending so much money on it that it essentially ended up as an STI. Nothing wrong with the WRX in my opinion, but if you are looking to go up in power and modify then do yourself a favour and start with an STI. Much better all round car.

For your budget I'd be looking at a 2.0L blobeye STI 2003-2005, if yo can get an 05-55 reg widetrack then even better.

Or a forged hawkeye STI.
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Wrx for daily sti for pleasure imo

BUT then again my little bro wants an sti for a daily now instead of modifying his wrx ppp which he has owned as a daily for over 2years he won’t even have anything sti on it as he says it’ll devalue his car lol!
he wouldn’t even let me put a sti speedo on that I bought as a gift for him
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thanks some great responses there.
so I forgot to ask in my op, that is insurance a lot higher on the sti compared to wrx?
I'd love to have a hawkeye sti but they're above my budget , don't like the look of the bugeye (personal opinion)

so if looking for sti do I just need to make sure its got full service history (to indicate car has been well maintained in its past) ?
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It's a car, no harder or easier to drive than any other car. The only difference between any other car is the petrol costs and the fact you are driving a goldfish bowl and ******** magnet.
I use my 400PS MY00 every day and have done for the last 18 years.

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Originally Posted by Discover
thanks some great responses there.
so I forgot to ask in my op, that is insurance a lot higher on the sti compared to wrx?
I'd love to have a hawkeye sti but they're above my budget , don't like the look of the bugeye (personal opinion)

so if looking for sti do I just need to make sure its got full service history (to indicate car has been well maintained in its past) ?
Yep, if you can find a car with full history and documented receipts from either a main dealer or Subaru specialist, not just any old back street garage. With the Hawkeye models you have to be careful with ringland piston failure and head gasket failure so you're better off with the blobeye shape STI or a JDM 2.0L model which will be bulletproof.

There are still some nice cars out there. Don't let high miles put you off if it's been well maintained by an enthusiast.

Would think the insurance difference between WRX and STI is nothing, certainly no difference for me.
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would be perfect to buy a blobeye STI and do a hawkeye conversion lol if it was as easy as that
do the JDM cars still make that signature Subaru rumble sound? I read because they have equal length headers they don't make that rumble and are much quieter in stock trim?
ahhhh can't decide what to do lol
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Should be circa 5 mpg between the two.

STIs are pretty much impossible to get over 25, but you can touch close to 30 in the WRX. Obviously if you’ve a heavy right foot, it’ll be less.

Insurance might be a bit different too, depending on age.
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Originally Posted by Discover
would be perfect to buy a blobeye STI and do a hawkeye conversion lol if it was as easy as that
do the JDM cars still make that signature Subaru rumble sound? I read because they have equal length headers they don't make that rumble and are much quieter in stock trim?
ahhhh can't decide what to do lol
dont think you’ll get a JDM within your budget, but no they don’t rumble.
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i hope your prepared for the fuel bills doing that mileage a week. my old boss who used to own my sti was doing around that sort of mileage and reckoned he put in 90 quid for the one and only time he brought it to work for that week. he sold it not long after that to me lol.
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Originally Posted by Discover
would be perfect to buy a blobeye STI and do a hawkeye conversion lol if it was as easy as that
do the JDM cars still make that signature Subaru rumble sound? I read because they have equal length headers they don't make that rumble and are much quieter in stock trim?
ahhhh can't decide what to do lol
you could do a hawk conversion on the bugeye if you wanted to (bug/blob/hawk parts are pretty much all interchangeable)

my advice is go for a nice looked after bugeye sti prodrive and do the hawk conversion OR buy a blobeye sti (widetrack if possible) and leave the hawk conversion as in my opinion the blobeye is the best looking model
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I'm going to go against the grain, and say modified wrx for a daily. Same power as an unmodified sti, and way better mpg, I regularly got over 350 miles out of a wrx tank full, lucky to get 250 miles in my current sti.

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Originally Posted by yabbadoo4
i hope your prepared for the fuel bills doing that mileage a week. my old boss who used to own my sti was doing around that sort of mileage and reckoned he put in 90 quid for the one and only time he brought it to work for that week. he sold it not long after that to me lol.
im over 200 miles a week to and from work and can do it on a full tank in my wrx.........................even with the odd spirited drive
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I'm pretty sure in my.old wrx, I could do my weekly mileage in 30 quid fuel for the week (driving at cruising speeds and not thrashing it), I guess I could live with that.

someone mentioned bugeye sti with a hawk conversion that sounds great. Where could I get this done? Will I need the entire front end - bonnet, wings, headlights and bumper?

also, what is the difference between WRX, WRX ppp and widetrack?
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Originally Posted by KwikFit
mine wrx ppp did 280 rarely 320, jdm hawk sti now 240-260 but... 50 litres in hawk instead of 60 ( no idea way i can put only 50l to jdm hawk-it is not spec c)
To be fair, 360 miles was driving motorway, under 70, so not particularly realistic, blob wagon, sports cat and filter, 279hp. Current jdm hatch spec C, standard cat, panel filter, hks actuator and fuel pressure reg 359hp best around 220 to tankful.
Is the blob wrx tank 60l? That explains a bit!
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Also bear in mind that these are high performance cars and getting on a bit, so you will need to budget for maintenance, or be prepared to do some spannering yourself. Things like bushes may be getting towards the end of their life and be wary of rust.
These cars are very tough, and there is lots of support to keep them going, but they can need a bit of tinkering to keep them driving as they should.
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Originally Posted by Discover
Hi Scoobsters, just after a bit of advice.
Firstly, my budget is quiet small, it will be anywhere between £6.5-7.5k maybe a touch higher.
I will be looking to buy a car within the next couple of weeks.What I need advice on is, if im gonna be using the car as my main daily (home to work and back = 100 miles a week), would you buy a clean very low mileage for example 35-50k mileage WRX or a high mileage (100k~) STI??Which would be better for a daily, whats more reliable and interms of running costs do they differ much?
ps I wont be doing any trackdays or racing etc
thanks
I'm selling my sti if you want more info mate
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Originally Posted by Bryan Gallacher
I'm selling my sti if you want more info mate
Hi maybe interested depending on price, can you pm me some info or link to the ad?
cheers
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Originally Posted by Discover
Hi maybe interested depending on price, can you pm me some info or link to the ad?
cheers
https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-444/1056424-selling-my-wrx-sti-type-uk.html

send me a pm if you want anymore info mate
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Great, will have a detailed look later as I'm at work right now.

Can anyone please explain differences what is PPP and widetrack??
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PPP prodrive performance pack , exhaust remap sometimes a fuel pump plus sometimes i believe a sports cat , it was a warranty approved tuning job , it was a great mod on classics and many other cars , widetrack is as it says a slightly wider track 10mm i believe , it was around 2005/06 plus was on a lot of jdm cars , wheels pcd changed from 100 to 114 suspension changes and other bits done like lights seats interior , downside was suspension and wheels no longer interchangeable from older models when widetrack came in
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Originally Posted by Discover
Great, will have a detailed look later as I'm at work right now.

Can anyone please explain differences what is PPP and widetrack??

Prodrive Performance Pack = a generic mapped ECU from Prodrive, Y Pipe, exhaust and sport cat depending on model.
Wide Track - wider track on the car and the PCD goes to 5 x 114 but only on the STI (WRX stayed at 5 x 100) and DCCD.
To add fuel to the fire my Newage JDM WRX was more than a match for a standard STi with lower running costs.

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Originally Posted by Bryan Gallacher
https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-444/1056424-selling-my-wrx-sti-type-uk.html

send me a pm if you want anymore info mate
I do hope you're getting another scooby or will Ayrshire have one less?
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Originally Posted by jimmy boo
I do hope you're getting another scooby or will Ayrshire have one less?
it's a surprise lol. no away yet. 😉
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Really wish you'd have attended school at one point in your life fawor and learned to read.

Don't worry, you'll be banned again by the morning.
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
Really wish you'd have attended school at one point in your life fawor and learned to read.

Don't worry, you'll be banned again by the morning.
sorry I didn't quiet get the joke ?
hopefully my wife's car will be sold within the next couple days and I will be in a position to buy a scooby once again yay
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Originally Posted by Discover
sorry I didn't quiet get the joke ?
hopefully my wife's car will be sold within the next couple days and I will be in a position to buy a scooby once again yay
The guy I replied to is a well known Troll. Just last night he created a username (even though he's currently banned) and went online to post mostly aggressive comments on all the threads I'd posted on. He then got banned again last night, created yet another username a few minutes later and put loads more trolling comments onto everyone's posts. Moderators have now removed his posts again thankfully.

My comment was just a reply to him, he's a vacuous low life who can hardly put a sentence together normally, hence the comment about school I made. Not at all related to your post or thread.

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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
The guy I replied to is a well known Troll. Just last night he created a username (even though he's currently banned) and went online to post mostly aggressive comments on all the threads I'd posted on. He then got banned again last night, created yet another username a few minutes later and put loads more trolling comments onto everyone's posts. Moderators have now removed his posts again thankfully.

My comment was just a reply to him, he's a vacuous low life who can hardly put a sentence together normally, hence the comment about school I made. Not at all related to your post or thread.
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