crazyspeedfreakz

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Ok so cut a long story very short a friend recently bought a 05 wrx
the car had a few issue we found out about after to do with the tgv system
and oxygen sensor... the first issue is that the car had not had a cambelt change in 10
years !!!!
We took the car to Richard at fb who done the cambelt and fixed the tgv issue which sorted
the code on the system for the tgv... I then replaced the oygen sensor in manifold And cleared
the codes off the ecu...

Richard said the eml should have be on and to inspect and on checking the bulb had been removed
from the clocks ... so today I replaced the bulb expecting the light to come on with ignition and go out when
started but still I’m not getting anything... I’ve a spare set of clocks here to change the bulbs from but it’s
not coming on at ignition on.

anyone have any thoughts...... I should add the clock look like there from a bug Sti not sure why they have been
changed but they have from the original blob wrx clocks...


any ideas would would be great as I hitting abit of a brick wall now.

RobsyUK

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Probably something sinister like someone removing the wire or pin from the plug for it to come on

Don Clark

For a MY05 WRX the eml light should be an smd LED





Although the MY01 manual (below) shows the eml as a bulb, on the MY02 Bug STi supplement it's upgraded to an LED also between A7(ign supply) and C6 (ecu).

Probably the reason it is not working is the MY05 uses C7 (ign supply) and A6(ecu) for the wiring, unless of course the combimeter plugs have been rewired to suit.
EDIT: designation of plugs A and C reversed from MY03 onwards so the ign feed and ecu connections still the same.




2002STi combimeter pdf

2005 combimeter pdf


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crazyspeedfreakz

iTrader: (92)

ok so abit of a update I have a spare set of of bug clocks sitting in the garage
I’ve swapped the clocks round and the eml works !!!

The wires are all in position uncut and the pins in the clock look untouched on the original set I’ve swapped the bulbs round
a few times still no joy I have absolute no idea why the light won’t come on with the original set

Don Clark

See my completed post above

crazyspeedfreakz

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Hi Don once again you always pop up with answers, but could you break that down
for me to understand sorry for sounding stupid but I guess your saying that I need to swap
a couple of the wire around but looking at that I’m now super confused

crazyspeedfreakz

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I should add the clocks originally fitted with the eml light not working are bug sti clocks and the clocks that I just swapped for and work are for a bug wrx clocks even though it’s a blob wrx 05

Russell38

Get some blob wrx clocks and get the millage corrected

Don Clark

Further investigation shows that If you look at the combimeter pdf's you will see that the designations of plugs A and C have been reversed.(from MY03 onwards it seems), so in theory the early STI combimeter should work.
The eml light is actually shown as an led for both WRX and STI meters, rather than a bulb you can replace, so assume it is dead or has been removed from the pcb in the STI meters.

crazyspeedfreakz

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Hi Don,

ok so I’m going down the route on finding replacement clocks and will have the Milage
corrected, the issue I’ve come across after looking at the front of the service Manuel
Is that the Impreza was originally supplied to Greece so I guess it’s a euro import
would this make any difference to the pin layout on the loom end or should it be the same
as a Uk...

the closed ive come to them working is with a set of Uk bug wrx clocks
only the abs light stayed on although I didn’t check all the functions on the
dash to see if the lights worked etc.

i bought off blob 04 wrx a cluster tried plugging that in and didn’t work
at all the eml light stayed on and the abs also stayed on and the headlights
didn’t want to show the low beam on dash either...

I have a cupple of people lined up with 05 / 55 plate clusters but I’m not sure
if there going to work been that the car is from Greece when first for sale.

Don Clark

If it was a RHD car supplied via Greece it will be the similar to a UK car but may be specced slightly differently, but would need the VIN and Option code to be certain.

crazyspeedfreakz

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thanks don

crazyspeedfreakz

iTrader: (92)

Hi don vin plate above.... let me know if that’s everything you need
and will delete it after you have all the details

Don Clark

Have copied the image - you could have PM'd.

crazyspeedfreakz

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wanted to send a pic, and it won’t let me via pm
always asked for a link and haven’t figured that out yet

Don Clark

As far as I can tell from the VIN information it is a 5MT WRC Blue (with off-black trim) European RHD MY05 Impreza WRX for the Irish Market, and as such would have possibly had an original speedo/tacho assembly within the combimeter for KPH rather than MPH ( changed January 2005 onwards).(not sure where Greece comes into it but at least the speedo would have been correct)
This may be why the combimeter was swapped out.

Wiring wise it shouldn't be any different if an alternative MY05 combimeter is used.

crazyspeedfreakz

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Don, the car according to the service book has never been in Ireland...
pre delivery inspection stamp was stamped in Nicosia so Cyprus not Greece
( sorry my fault) but after that just English history is that normal... not sure I’m looking
into things to deep due to all the issues

Don Clark

Cyprus used to be a major centre for UK Grey Imports but the Option Code ER is listed for Ireland RHD market.(unless the manual is wrong - it has been known)

If you have a combimeter from a genuine MY05 UK car then worth a try as long as you know it's good.

crazyspeedfreakz

iTrader: (92)

ok thanks don will grab a set from a Uk 05 plate is there a part number for the 05 Uk wrx clocks
that I can look for or any specific things to look for.... or are they going to look the same
as the 04 ones I currenly have....

lastly I have been offered from 55 plate would there be possible differences there
or shall I look specifically for 05 and nothing else... I have two been offered 2 so far one 55 plate
and just waiting on confirmation on the second which will most likely be tomorrow

thanks again don for all your help

Don Clark

Unfortunately the combimeter is made up of several parts. The only item different between a MY04 and a MY05 UK (EK) assembly is item 2 below, the plate assembly -printed circuit board.



if you look at the complete page below, you can see the variances between EK and ER parts. (KA is for Australia)

http://opposedforces.com/parts/impre...llustration_1/

crazyspeedfreakz

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ok so now I really am at a stage where I don’t know what to attempt next..... the my05 gauges arrived today and having the
same same issue as the others

I now have tried

bug wrx clocks
bug Sti clocks
blob 04 clocks
blob 05 clocks

none of them seem to be working as fully as they should some have no indicators, most of them the eml light isn’t
working, headlight not showing and that just the bits off the top of my head no to mention the rest of the warning lights
that I’m sure are on there.

im fully stuck at what to attempt next

anyone have any thoughts

Don Clark

You may find the problem is a switch in the ECU/Combimeter Microprocessor which can only be accessed by Subaru Select Monitor.