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I have browsed these forums for some time, but not posted much.
I had an very fun modified Accord Type R for many years, but have always wanted a subaru
I am now a super happy owner of a 2005 WRX300 (i hope).
I has had an engine rebuild 6 months ago and lots of parts replaced so hopefully reliable for a while.
I have sooo many stupid questions 😄
But firstly, can anyone reccomed a known trusted subaru specialist near Glossop. I would just like a speciaslist to do a full check on it and the first oils change to have a base ownership.
And i have a new double din to fit to it so is disconnecting the battery while i plug it in and remove the old one ok, or will it screw up something with the alarm\immobiliser?
Ok one more sorry. I have a few old obd2 bluetooth scanners, £10 ones. Will they let me read live data to my double din of temps and loads etc?
I look forward to chatting with you all, and maybe even meeting people once the plague is gone.
If Manchester isn’t a problem travel wise then you will get lots of recommendations around there. I’m from Liverpool but I travel to adgespeed in irlam and have done for 10 years. Top guy 👍
Hello and wellcome to the fold , check for rust and under seal , sills and rear turrets are often worse areas , i had to google Glossop , i’m not a lot of help there but Scooby clinic is not far from you , i’ve not used them but generally good feed back , i’m sure other suggestions will follow , no need to disconnect the battery , when you remove the facia there will be a plug just un do that , you will need a specific scooby plug about 5£ on ebay of halfords , the code reader will tell you some bits but not a lot as subaru use their own software but it can clear codes and read most codes , but won’t do live data , to do live it gets more complicated but i’m pretty sure easy to sort out with some one more tech than me 👍😁
Congratulations and welcome.
I don't know of many places up your way but Scooby Clinic are about an hour away by the looks of it. I've never used them myself and you'll get both lovers and haters on here but they are at least a specialist.
There are a few people on here from the Manchester area so there's probably someone else who can help.
I've never had any issues with the Sigma system when disconnecting the battery on any of my Imprezas so I don't think you'll have any problems there.
Good luck.
Howdy all.
Yes scoobclinic i have heard lots about, and that's where this one was mapped. But they not open on saturdays which is an issue for me. I would like to go over and chat while they do the work.
If anyone has a link for a usb cable i can use for the 16pin obd2 or a scanner that will give me live data to torque that would be ace.
Howdy all.
Yes scoobclinic i have heard lots about, and that's where this one was mapped. But they not open on saturdays which is an issue for me. I would like to go over and chat while they do the work.
If anyone has a link for a usb cable i can use for the 16pin obd2 or a scanner that will give me live data to torque that would be ace.
A nice tactrix cable or dongle would be nice
Gives u option to reflash ecu as well if feeling up to it depending on style of map you can play with launch control settings too.
As well as read all ECU parameters with your laptop & reset/check for eml codes.
Think u need the old cable type tho not 100% sure if dongle works on older stuff, im sure someone will corrwet me if it can tho.
Yep The trick is to keep it looking standard and .... keep it going without headbutting the walls.
Yes I want it as standard as it can be looking. Appart from painting the interior trim silver bits another colour as it's a bit naff.
I want to make sure my money goes to keeping in running as best as possible. So a book into scoobyclinic is next on my list. Unless anyone has any other recommendations near me in Glossop?
Last edited by BrokenSpring; 10 January 2021 at 02:53 PM.
Yes I want it as standard as it can be looking. Appart from painting the interior trim silver bits another colour as it's a bit naff.
I want to make sure my money goes to keeping in running as best as possible. So a book into scoobyclinic is next on my list. Unless anyone has any other recommendations near me in Glossop?
scoobyclinic are fantastic mate, everything you need under 1 roof. I use adgespeed for lots of work as he’s 40 minutes away and I use scoobyclinic to even though there 2 hours away. Just depends what needs doing. my car was with them this time last year getting tonnes of work done and it’s not missed a beat since
This is 2nd hand news but the Gossip to Glosslop is watch out for scope & price creep at Scooby Clinic ,
they also had some "interesting road trip" press on here over the years. Many of us use the independent Mappers who do travel.
However I do have the Clinics SC36 Turbo for my UK300 but paid a top price for it.
The 7cm Blouch is essentially the same Turbo and is cheaper than the SC which is just renamed but with a 33% lighter impeller.
I do notice the speed of torque spool improved in a direct comparison to the TD05 16G that I used before.
So on the way to a 350bhp WRX 5spd limited target this 360bhp SC rated turbo is considered as a possible / good option.
If low down Torque is what turns you on though you might want to stick with a TD04 as a Hybrid these used to be obtained from
Andy forest but I believe he no longer sells them, but do google for them.
"AFP4H – is based on a TD04 this is available new or fully re-manufactured on an exchange basis. It is fitted with a new high efficiency, high flow rate compressor wheel and compressor housing which is capable of maintaining the fast spool up rate typically associated with the TD04 but with the ability to run higher boost efficiently over a wider rpm band. This turbo has been tested to levels in excess of 320lbft and 320bhp. With full boost still coming in as low as 2500rpm on a 2.0"
Regarding trim changes rather than painting the chrome stuff you could use S/H earlier black trimmed items from earlier WRX models
( Id keep the Uk300 bits especially the footwell carpets in case you sell or ever hit that wall of yours )
You might find the gear **** leaves shards of chrome in your hand if you wear a ring or previous owner did.
looks like BMW Bling I know but is it that bad ?
Things to look out for right now . Radiator top hose , is it properly tie wrapped up ?
When running high revs / flat chat it balloons out and can be cut by the cooling fans as they cut in
It happened to me on an autobahn at 140 mph ,
your screen is literally covered in green foul smelly antifreeze mix which at speed is highly dangerous.
If you have not had it done already get a small bore Harvey Uppipe fitted , (not a large bore the large aftermarket ones hurts spool on small turbos)
or at very least Decat the standard one with a chisel and port grinder before the Catcells breakup
and try to find a path through the turbo and into the engine to have a party.
Anyway enough for now and welcome.
Last edited by Linksfahrer; 10 January 2021 at 04:14 PM.
Reason: decat uppipe warning
However I do have the Clinics SC36 Turbo for my UK300 but paid a top price for it.
The 7cm Blouch is essentially the same Turbo and is cheaper than the SC which is just renamed but with a 33% lighter impeller.
Blouch have Billet wheels too so they weigh the same. When the say the 33% lighter wheel that is compared to the old non billet (cast) style. Havn't had they old wheels since long before they made the switch to the black housings.
There isn't a special SC wheel that Blouch supply. If they went to the effort of making one the would use it themselves. The amount of Blouch sold in US outnumber the UK by a huge margin so would be silly for them to make a better lighter wheel & send it only to the UK & not have it available to everyone else.
What Blouch do offer tho is the XT-R series which use a Garrett Ball-Bearing core instead of the usual Journal Bearing style in the TD-Series of turbos. This would improve spool & transient responce even more
This would be my choice if spool was my number 1 priority. Yes it's a TD-05 but ask for it with the 7cm housing like the SC range & it should be pretty fantastic spool wise & transient responce due to the BB core.
The strange thing is the normal XT (Not the XT-R) is rated as a 41lbs/min turbo where as the XT-R is a 38lbs/min so although it costs less it should actually make a bit more power
Sadly I was not aware of that and nor did SC offer me one when I enquired.
As @ July 2018 this was what was on offer SC36 Billet - Direct Fit Turbo
- Turbo extras: PERRIN Electronic 3 ..
- Oil feed pipe: Include oil feed pip..
If BB core version was available here thru a UK supplier ( ie without doing the US import / trip to customs to pay the duty)
I would also have taken this option.
Last edited by Linksfahrer; 10 January 2021 at 05:56 PM.
Reason: add product description from order confirmation
Sadly I was not ware of that and nor did SC offer me one when I enquired.
If BB core version was available here thru a UK supplier ( ie without doing the US import / trip to customs to pay the duty)
I would also have taken this option.
Yea no doubt they would rather sell what they have on the shelf. It annoys me how they are not more open about the fact they supply Blouch products. SC are not turbo manufacturers they are parts suppliers. Look at how many different wrx/sti turbos Blouch actually offer then look at the SC range. Its a bit crude but you can use the lbs/min to roughly work out the max bhp 38lbs/min being 380bhp. Pretty sure thats what they all do.
Hi I'm new to this I've recently bought a Subaru and it wouldn't start today its come up check engine light. It did start then cut out and I can smell fuel any one able to help thanks
Sorry Broken spring (OP) this is off topic a bit ..
To SmurfyBhoy
Yep that's exactly what I think , Its natural that SC will sell what have on shelf first, and my feelings about them are therefore just neutral.
also though its why this forum is so good for us.
I was still in Germany and about 3 weeks till I moved back here when I rang them to buy my replacement Turbo ,
the previous TD05 16G (PRC cheapy) had developed a scream , shaft wear had already been caused by overheating which I traced
to a clogged oil feed banjo connection oil filter ( another thing to remove from the WRX at earliest possible notice ) . I simply didn't have time to do any more
research or indeed find a German mapper for a different sized Turbo, Id always ran over here to Simon (RIP) and later SRR with Duncan.
When I originally fitted the TD05 16G and the bigger 06WRX Dark blue injectors , Simon had me drive over off boost. but I got into trouble on E40 near Leige when I had to drop down to 3rd uphill out of the river valley. The ECU pulled timing on me. I did not want a repeat of that exercise.
I'm also not yet convinced that a 2.0 does in fact make 360 bhp on the SC36 (Blouch)
However I will wave flags and shout from the hilltops if I get 350bhp with the 200cpi Cat and Std cast ported headers.
Despite the graph they put up reaching 373bhp My current torque curve is almost identical to this but with 328bhp
At Plymouth Engine tune I too have 120lbft @2500 but make my 320lb/ft @4500 a full 500rpm earlier.
The SC example above drops under 300lb/ft @6500 mine drops earlier @5700 but the game here on mine was limited to 1.5 bar.
So its weird that the SC example makes 374 bhp I wonder what boost level they needed for that ( no comment if it was a full Decat either )
Also leaves me wondering what improvements can be made to the torque curve if the improved ballrace version was used.
But perhaps the thread OP and others can benefit from my mistakes.
Last edited by Linksfahrer; 10 January 2021 at 05:47 PM.
Reason: graph # error
Hi I'm new to this I've recently bought a Subaru and it wouldn't start today its come up check engine light. It did start then cut out and I can smell fuel any one able to help thanks
Danny , this sort of thing should go on a new post on your own thread. after you have introduced yourself , take a moment to look at the site a bit first. but a big welcome anyways
Sorry Broken spring (OP) this is off topic a bit ..
To SmurfyBhoy
Yep that's exactly what I think , Its natural that SC will sell what have on shelf first, and my feelings about them are therefore just neutral.
also though its why this forum is so good for us.
I was still in Germany and about 3 weeks till I moved back here when I rang them to buy my replacement Turbo ,
the previous TD05 16G (PRC cheapy) had developed a scream , shaft wear had already been caused by overheating which I traced
to a clogged oil feed banjo connection oil filter ( another thing to remove from the WRX at earliest possible notice ) . I simply didn't have time to do any more
research or indeed find a German mapper for a different sized Turbo, Id always ran over here to Simon (RIP) and later SRR with Duncan.
When I originally fitted the TD05 16G and the bigger 06WRX Dark blue injectors , Simon had me drive over off boost. but I got into trouble on E40 near Leige when I had to drop down to 3rd uphill out of the river valley. The ECU pulled timing on me. I did not want a repeat of that exercise.
I'm also not yet convinced that a 2.0 does in fact make 360 bhp on the SC36 (Blouch)
However I will wave flags and shout from the hilltops if I get 350bhp with the 200cpi Cat and Std cast ported headers.
Despite the graph they put up reaching 373bhp My current torque curve is almost identical to this but with 328bhp
At Plymouth Engine tune I too have 120lbft @2500 but make my 320lb/ft @4500 a full 500rpm earlier.
The SC example above drops under 300lb/ft @6500 mine drops earlier @5700 but the game here on mine was limited to 1.5 bar.
So its weird that the SC example makes 374 bhp I wonder what boost level they needed for that ( no comment if it was a full Decat either )
Also leaves me wondering what improvements can be made to the torque curve if the improved ballrace version was used.
But perhaps the thread OP and others can benefit from my mistakes.
Seems very high in rpm to make any real useable torque.
If you ask me a car doesnt really feel like its moving until making 300ftlbs which even on the SC graph is way up at 4500rpm.
Its almost as gutless as my 2.0 was on the SC42/Blouch (After being remachined to fit a bigger Billet wheel and refreshed) here's what Owens Says
It's a bit of a Frankenstein's monster now as it's made from a mix of Garrett, Blouch and Owen Developments parts. The key things are the turbine wheel/shaft (which is a Garrett GT30) and the compressor wheel (Owen Developments HTA), which would make it an ODGT3076HTA. Even though it has M-Spec parts, it's not a full M-Spec turbo (though it's 80% of the way there) so I believe it's an ODGT3076HTA.
I'm sure i got told at the time it was a 71 wheel not 76 so Gt30/71 if you ask me. Think that was a typo on their part.
This graph was when only running 1.5Bar. These turbos need to be giving a good bit more before getting high 400's. I was 1.9bar i think on E30 Blend to get above 450bhp but on a stock 2003 bottom end so also not mapped too aggresively on pump fuel which this graph represents.
You can see how much bottom end it lost compared to my old VF35 setup. Which had 300ft/lbs by 3600rpm
I would have expected a little 16g to be much much better low down, although if its on a wrx with no AVCS that would lose a little down low due to that.
And the XT-R ball bearing version to be better still.
Here is the car on 30% Ethanol vs 20% Ethanol
The torque spike on the 20% graph can be ignored it certainly didn't make more torque than the E30 tune id guess it was the same 430ft/lbs.
But compare the 20% to the pump map & you can see just how much that extra Ethanol content helped out. Again ignore the spike in torque consider it to be 430ish on E20.
Last edited by SmurfyBhoy; 10 January 2021 at 06:37 PM.
Danny , this sort of thing should go on a new post on your own thread. after you have introduced yourself , take a moment to look at the site a bit first. but a big welcome anyways
Howdy, you can just go up a level to the general forum and click new thread.
I am thinking of having a 3 gauge pod fitted for boost, oil temp and one more useful one. Do people have any good pictures of the sunken pods? I don't like the hooded pod too much.
Would be great to see both in real life but car shows are all kiboshed for now
I feel like it should be broken out into a "350-400 turbo mega thread" in general tech! We all have interesting results to report I think, and it would keep the info in one place
Edit: It's a shame we can't have a post that we could all edit at the same time... I.e. something where we could edit the first post and add update links etc (like JIRA or something)
Last edited by Henrik; 11 January 2021 at 11:49 AM.
07 January 2021, 09:39 AM
New to Subaru and Turbo
The trick is to keep it looking standard and .... keep it going without headbutting the walls.
