use of words quiet and quite
#3
In a world of "Netiquette" and not using UPPERCASE, etc. Does it really matter if we spell something wrong ? The BBS is a way of communicating in a quick and efficient manner, without having to worry about grammar and punctuation. LOL, m8,ROTFLMAO, etc, etc,... Lighten up everyone, for God's sake.... Ooooh.... Sorry God... your post !
#4
I am not doubting people reasons for spelling badly. And I am certainly not saying sort it out, just airing a little irritation. I make obvious typos all teh time, but when it is not a typo, a huge repressed part of me, wants to correct that person even though it would be wrong. So by writing it hear, I can say something without directing it at individuals.
I also used to think dyslexia was an excuse for stupid people, until I met a dyslexic professor of quantum mechanics, I now fully believe it. I am stil wary of school friends who used to claim extra exam time though .
While I am here though.
I hate the use of ironic when people mean unfortunate, for example alanis morisette. that whole song has one line relating to irony, the rest is just misfortune.
The there is definate, when I see definite written, it makes me smile to see an informed person.
Dont mean to be a snob, honestly, but then I am the perfect being.
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So, GOD, if you are so perfect, why did _you_ have to edit this message?
Moray
(I'm treading on mostly dangerous ground, messing with the words of god... quite like the guys who wrote the new testament... ok, I'll be quiet now, mostly. )
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I also used to think dyslexia was an excuse for stupid people, until I met a dyslexic professor of quantum mechanics, I now fully believe it. I am stil wary of school friends who used to claim extra exam time though .
While I am here though.
I hate the use of ironic when people mean unfortunate, for example alanis morisette. that whole song has one line relating to irony, the rest is just misfortune.
The there is definate, when I see definite written, it makes me smile to see an informed person.
Dont mean to be a snob, honestly, but then I am the perfect being.
[This message has been edited by GOD (edited 23 May 2001).]
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So, GOD, if you are so perfect, why did _you_ have to edit this message?
Moray
(I'm treading on mostly dangerous ground, messing with the words of god... quite like the guys who wrote the new testament... ok, I'll be quiet now, mostly. )
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[This message has been edited by MorayMackenzie (edited 23 May 2001).]
#5
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by GOD:
<B>While I am here though.
I hate the of ironic ...
Dont mean to be a snob, honestly, but then I am the perfect being.[/quote]
You may need to brush up on your grammer, or is that grammar, before claiming to be perfect
<B>While I am here though.
I hate the of ironic ...
Dont mean to be a snob, honestly, but then I am the perfect being.[/quote]
You may need to brush up on your grammer, or is that grammar, before claiming to be perfect
#6
I have noticed, although I dont know if it is a typo, that many people confuse the words quiet and quite.
Quiet meaning opposite to loud.
and quite being equivalent to fairly.
just wanted to clear that up as it is bugging me.
Quiet meaning opposite to loud.
and quite being equivalent to fairly.
just wanted to clear that up as it is bugging me.
#7
While we are on the subject, the mis-use of the word "ignorant" pi$$es me off. It doesn't mean to ignore someone, it's the displaying of an opinion with lack of knowledge around a subject. To mis-use it for ingnoring makes the user of the word "ignorant" ! how odd.
Apart form that not much pi**es me off!
Apart form that not much pi**es me off!
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#8
Guys, don't get pi$$ed off like that... don't forget that a lot of people here are not english natives. But they are, on the contrary, fairly educated people, to be able to write in a foreign language.
I wonder how many mistakes you would type if you were writing in French, or Portuguese. (Ok, I'm portuguese, and write in all 3 languages just as well (or bad ) ).
I wonder how many of you even speak another language other than English... Don't take me wrong, I am not trying to get at you... Just trying to get things into perspective a little. The important thing in a BBS is that we understand eachother, having common interests. Don't snap at people... most of them are already making an effort to even be here
cheers
Max
I wonder how many mistakes you would type if you were writing in French, or Portuguese. (Ok, I'm portuguese, and write in all 3 languages just as well (or bad ) ).
I wonder how many of you even speak another language other than English... Don't take me wrong, I am not trying to get at you... Just trying to get things into perspective a little. The important thing in a BBS is that we understand eachother, having common interests. Don't snap at people... most of them are already making an effort to even be here
cheers
Max
#12
Another slant on this is that the person using the incorrect word, or spelling it incorrectly, could be dyslexic. I once, many years ago, gently flamed someone for poor spelling. His polite reply was that he was dyslexic, and that he would try much harder to spell correctly and that he hoped he hadn't irritated anyone. I ate an enormous chunk of humble pie and learnt a valuable lesson.
I am a bit of a stickler for good spelling, but I try to bear in mind that others may have a good reason for spelling poorly, using poor grammer or using incorrect words.
I'm going off to polish the halo know...
I am a bit of a stickler for good spelling, but I try to bear in mind that others may have a good reason for spelling poorly, using poor grammer or using incorrect words.
I'm going off to polish the halo know...
#13
Q. what does DNA stand for?
A. National Dyslexic Association
I used to get riled by bad spelling - but, moderated my views - if i can understand the word, then the spelling's fine (note correct use of the apostrophe)
so loose, lose, its, it's ..... does it matter, isn't it just language evolving?
A. National Dyslexic Association
I used to get riled by bad spelling - but, moderated my views - if i can understand the word, then the spelling's fine (note correct use of the apostrophe)
so loose, lose, its, it's ..... does it matter, isn't it just language evolving?
#14
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by GOD:
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While I am here though.
I hate the of ironic when people mean unfortunate, for example alanis morisette. that whole song has one line relating to irony, the rest is just misfortune.
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No re-cycling of old Ed Byrne routines on here please.
<B>
While I am here though.
I hate the of ironic when people mean unfortunate, for example alanis morisette. that whole song has one line relating to irony, the rest is just misfortune.
[/quote]
No re-cycling of old Ed Byrne routines on here please.
#16
Let's face it - English is a crazy language. There is no egg in eggplant nor ham in hamburger;
neither apple nor pine in pineapple. English muffins weren't invented in England or French fries in France.
Sweetmeats are candies while sweetbreads, which aren't sweet, are meat.
We take English for granted. But if we explore its paradoxes, we find that quicksand can work slowly,
boxing rings are square and a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.
And why is it that writers write but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce and hammers don't ham?
If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth beeth? One goose, 2 geese. So one moose, 2 meese?
One index, 2 indices? Doesn't it seem crazy that you can make amends but not one amend? If you have a bunch
of odds and ends and get rid of all but one of them, what do you call it? If teachers taught, why didn't preachers praught?
If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?
Sometimes I think all the English speakers should be committed to an asylum for the verbally insane.
In what language do people recite at a play and play at a recital? Ship by truck and send cargo by ship?
Have noses that run and feet that smell? How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same,
while a wise man and a wise guy are opposites?
You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which your house can burn up as it burns down,
in which you fill in a form by filling it out and in which an alarm goes off by going on.
English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the creativity of the human race
(which, of course, isn't a race at all). That is why, when the stars are out, they are visible,
but when the lights are out, they are invisible.
I thank you
Bob
neither apple nor pine in pineapple. English muffins weren't invented in England or French fries in France.
Sweetmeats are candies while sweetbreads, which aren't sweet, are meat.
We take English for granted. But if we explore its paradoxes, we find that quicksand can work slowly,
boxing rings are square and a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.
And why is it that writers write but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce and hammers don't ham?
If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth beeth? One goose, 2 geese. So one moose, 2 meese?
One index, 2 indices? Doesn't it seem crazy that you can make amends but not one amend? If you have a bunch
of odds and ends and get rid of all but one of them, what do you call it? If teachers taught, why didn't preachers praught?
If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?
Sometimes I think all the English speakers should be committed to an asylum for the verbally insane.
In what language do people recite at a play and play at a recital? Ship by truck and send cargo by ship?
Have noses that run and feet that smell? How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same,
while a wise man and a wise guy are opposites?
You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which your house can burn up as it burns down,
in which you fill in a form by filling it out and in which an alarm goes off by going on.
English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the creativity of the human race
(which, of course, isn't a race at all). That is why, when the stars are out, they are visible,
but when the lights are out, they are invisible.
I thank you
Bob
#17
Clap clap clap.
Brilliant post Bob, looks too well orchestrated to have been off the cuff, but excellent none the less.
Since you have pretty much ended the topic, I would just like to add my thoughts on one thing.
Your post mentioned the french, and the paradoxes of the english language also, my post mentioned irony.
So I would like to add on another note, the beauty of the irony that the british invented downhill skiing, yet the french take the **** out of us for being incapable at the sport.
I appreciate that it is off topic, but since it was closing, I wanted to add something that makes me smile.
Some other skiiers out there must appreciate this.
God (snowboarder - sorry)
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Brilliant post Bob, looks too well orchestrated to have been off the cuff, but excellent none the less.
Since you have pretty much ended the topic, I would just like to add my thoughts on one thing.
Your post mentioned the french, and the paradoxes of the english language also, my post mentioned irony.
So I would like to add on another note, the beauty of the irony that the british invented downhill skiing, yet the french take the **** out of us for being incapable at the sport.
I appreciate that it is off topic, but since it was closing, I wanted to add something that makes me smile.
Some other skiiers out there must appreciate this.
God (snowboarder - sorry)
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#21
...an "outsiders" version of what bob said...
I remember those prehistoric times in school when I had to choose which language to study. The options (in my school) were German or English. English was considered as "more difficult" because of spelling, irregular verbs and whatever else we don't have in our language (Lithuanian, which also has all kinds of bizarre forms, dating back to Sanscrit)...
I remember those prehistoric times in school when I had to choose which language to study. The options (in my school) were German or English. English was considered as "more difficult" because of spelling, irregular verbs and whatever else we don't have in our language (Lithuanian, which also has all kinds of bizarre forms, dating back to Sanscrit)...
#22
God,
I thought I would draw your attention to an observation I have placed in one of your previous posts... not that an omnipotent (or is it impotent?) being such as yourself would need prodding as such, you understand.
Moray
I thought I would draw your attention to an observation I have placed in one of your previous posts... not that an omnipotent (or is it impotent?) being such as yourself would need prodding as such, you understand.
Moray
#23
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jerome:
I am a bit of a stickler for good spelling, but I try to bear in mind that others may have a good reason for spelling poorly, using poor grammer or using incorrect words.
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Jerome,
Just a thought.....
Shouldn't that be grammar?
I am a bit of a stickler for good spelling, but I try to bear in mind that others may have a good reason for spelling poorly, using poor grammer or using incorrect words.
[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Jerome,
Just a thought.....
Shouldn't that be grammar?
#25
Nice post Bob. However I cannot let you off with one element of your reasoning which coincidental always drives me mad.....and that is the misunderstanding surrounding "Hamburger". Hamburgers were invented allegedly in Hamburg....hence the name. There is no such thing therefore as a bleedin' BEEFBURGER...Grrrrrrr
#27
Ooooh, where to start LOL
Jerome: dyslexic people ... yeah, I met a whole family a few years ago. Very intelligent, but their writing kind of sucked... the jokes they had about it were brilliant though.
"What's a dyslexic agnostic ?" Answer: "Someone who lies awake at night wondering if there really is a dog."
About the French Fries ... I may be mistaken, but they are indeed a French invention I thought ? (see my profile to add some importance to this ) And the Dutch eat more French fries per capita than the Belgians BTW.
About languages ... mhhhm, I think it is not wrong per se to correct people when they make obvious mistakes - when (if ?) you have the feeling they would appreciate it. It depends if someone is willing to learn or not. But flaming someone for their language - even P1WR - is really a no-no in my book. Unlesss... you can correct someone in their native language as a non-native speaker
BTW, it I personally believe that in the next few decades, we will all be speaking English, poorly or not, as it is the lingua franca of the Internet.
Theo [feeling paranoid with every word he typed in this post ...]
Jerome: dyslexic people ... yeah, I met a whole family a few years ago. Very intelligent, but their writing kind of sucked... the jokes they had about it were brilliant though.
"What's a dyslexic agnostic ?" Answer: "Someone who lies awake at night wondering if there really is a dog."
About the French Fries ... I may be mistaken, but they are indeed a French invention I thought ? (see my profile to add some importance to this ) And the Dutch eat more French fries per capita than the Belgians BTW.
About languages ... mhhhm, I think it is not wrong per se to correct people when they make obvious mistakes - when (if ?) you have the feeling they would appreciate it. It depends if someone is willing to learn or not. But flaming someone for their language - even P1WR - is really a no-no in my book. Unlesss... you can correct someone in their native language as a non-native speaker
BTW, it I personally believe that in the next few decades, we will all be speaking English, poorly or not, as it is the lingua franca of the Internet.
Theo [feeling paranoid with every word he typed in this post ...]
#28
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by GOD:
<B>I am not doubting people reasons for spelling badly. And I am certainly not saying sort it out, just airing a little irritation. I make obvious typos all teh time, but when it is not a typo, a huge repressed part of me, wants to correct that person even though it would be wrong. So by writing it hear, I can say something without directing it at individuals.
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Sorry, I can't resist it ...
but you've just said by writing it hear .... (no you do that with your ears, well sometimes anyway)
I think you mean here (and I don't think that's a typo )
you see that's the trouble ... when you start having a go about language ... spelling ... grammar .... you do have to pay more attention to what you've written ...
nice to see that God is human after all
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<B>I am not doubting people reasons for spelling badly. And I am certainly not saying sort it out, just airing a little irritation. I make obvious typos all teh time, but when it is not a typo, a huge repressed part of me, wants to correct that person even though it would be wrong. So by writing it hear, I can say something without directing it at individuals.
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Sorry, I can't resist it ...
but you've just said by writing it hear .... (no you do that with your ears, well sometimes anyway)
I think you mean here (and I don't think that's a typo )
you see that's the trouble ... when you start having a go about language ... spelling ... grammar .... you do have to pay more attention to what you've written ...
nice to see that God is human after all
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#29
EvilBevil (shouldn't that be Bevel?) - anyway your point about English becoming the de facto language for communication because of its use on the internet mirrors the use of Latin 500 years or so ago - i.e your native language may be French, English, Italian, etc but when u communicated across international boundaries, Latin was used.
And where's Latin today?
So maybe English won't become the lingua franca, the internet is just a passing fad.
And where's Latin today?
So maybe English won't become the lingua franca, the internet is just a passing fad.