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Old 27 January 2000 | 01:37 AM
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Nick,

chill out, I was only making conversation to your thread as no one else had at the time.
And I think it amazing that Martin can still drive race cars despite his appalling injuries.
Won't bother next time.

Touchy!!
Old 27 January 2000 | 09:12 AM
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Anyone admit to a white V-registered WRX (I think) 4-door parked in Watford Tesco last night?

If so, what the f*** were you doing in the disabled parking area?
Old 27 January 2000 | 10:08 AM
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Careful Nick,

Martin Donnelly has a disabled sticker for his car, despite being able to still drive at a fare old rate he is classed as desabled.

On the other hand, the driver could have just been lazy.

Tut, tut
Old 27 January 2000 | 11:09 AM
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I wouldn't have made the comment if there'd been a disabled sticker in the car, now would I?

Makes my blood boil when I see people taking parking places away from people who really need them.

Old 27 January 2000 | 11:39 AM
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Hmm..grey area for me

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Old 27 January 2000 | 02:34 PM
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Nick! Keep taking the tablets. Who are you to dictate parking areas?
Old 27 January 2000 | 02:52 PM
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Err, Nick's not making the rules on this - the store is. I agree with Nick that it's inconsiderate: some places in Leeds are now putting large stickers on windscreens if there's no disabled sticker on view.
Old 27 January 2000 | 02:56 PM
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People who really need them? Ha Ha!

The bays for "disabled" are always very full, but there`s never a wheelchair to be seen in the shop.Most of the orange sticker brigade positively run from their cars, having conned their GP to write to the council.

If your an able bodied single man with no kids on board and no orange sticker you can park 1/2 a mile away.........
Old 27 January 2000 | 03:03 PM
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OH yea - another thing :

I once was told off for parking in the "with children" bays:

"Where are your Kids then mate??"


"Oh, Eton and Cambridge."
Old 27 January 2000 | 03:05 PM
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I always park 1/2 mile away anyway - it's easier to justify taking up 2 spaces if I do that...
Old 27 January 2000 | 03:19 PM
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KRS - sorry to react as I did. You're quite right to tell me to chill out. At least, you were until I read the later posts!

So to Mr Leigh/Wigwam et al:
Wait until you've got arthritis and you're 75 years old. Try walking with a stick. Old age will happen to you, and you won't like it when it does. At least you'll be able to shuffle the few yards to the store ..... except some fit young man has taken the space.

And the Parent & Child spaces? The reason they're wider than the average is so you can lift your child out. Try that with the normal narrow spaces.

I suspect neither of you gentlemen have been to a supermaket with young children, or have ever taken a disabled relative shopping. Try it, and you'll see what a difference it makes to your views.

Old 27 January 2000 | 03:32 PM
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NickF,

It is me that should apologise to you. I had no idea that you were so elderly and walk with a stick. It makes my blood boil also.

Biggest offenders tend to drive similar cars have you noticed

Orions
Cavaliars
Vans
late 70's Mercs.
Rusty Sierra's

Not stereo typing of course!!

KRS
P.S. My Uncle is 68 and tells me he's too old for an Impreza. You wait till I tell him that excuse is a cop out!
Old 27 January 2000 | 03:36 PM
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Nick F,

I once drove to the 800 mile round trip to and from scotland with a knee injury that was subsequently diagnosed as a complete rupture of the pattela ligament (the ligament that pulls bottom half of your leg forward was completely severed/snapped). The injury to my right knee didn't in any way affect my safely operating the car (neither of the two doctors who mis-diagnosed me in the six week period after the incident had a problem with me driving!), but I couldn't walk without a crutch.

I avoided using disabled spots because I didn't have, and was unlikely to get, an orange badge. Do you think it would have been acceptable for me to use one in these circumstances?

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Old 27 January 2000 | 03:43 PM
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If you are old and infirm it would be more sensible to oreder delivered food from Tesconet or Sainsbury`s online than getting in the way of everone else in the aisles, and generally causing trolley rage.

Also why would anyone want to drag their poor kids shopping in the first place!? Pain in the **** for themselves and everone else with their screaming and running in front of shoppers etc.

I would like my own private shopping hours.
Old 27 January 2000 | 03:55 PM
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Nick
I'd be careful parking in that bloody place.
My girlfriend went shopping and took my escort (luckily). She returned to find most of the front end missing. There were also no witnesses!?
Try explaining that to your fleet manager!
Old 27 January 2000 | 03:59 PM
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Personally, even if a car park is completely empty I wouldn't park in a disabled or with children space. I cannot understand how some people can be so lazy or ignorant of the fact that these spaces are for people who need them.

A salesman who works for my company (he's a to**er and I say it to his face) drives a TVR with a disabled sticker. He's also the best player in my work footbaLL team.


Old 27 January 2000 | 04:03 PM
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Not me that's the elderly one, but my wife's grandfather. The worst of it is that he's got a Renault 16 with a column gearshift - that's the car with the orange sticker, so that's the one I have to drive to get him to the shops if the sticker is to be used. It's got the worst handling of any car I've ever driven, including a Lada Samara.

He's actually 97, by the way, and still manages to walk (just). Gave up driving on the condition that someone else would take him shopping.


Moray - I see your point entirely, and can sympathise. I've been in similar situations and thought about it, but would hate myself for being a hypocrite.

Jon - spot on - the best reason for not parking in either a disabled or kiddy place is that the parking is TERRRIBLE. You're far more likely to get a bump there than anywhere else.
Old 27 January 2000 | 05:21 PM
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Im sorry to touch a nerve, but I think you should have your licence taken away once you get to a particular age. If you are 75 and have athritis, you shouldnt be driving, period. Driving in todays conditions and environments means you need 'TOTAL' concentration and lightning reflexes.
Disabled is one thing, but plain old age is completely different.

Some of the driving by old people just has to be seen to believed. For some reason, there seems to be an unfeasibly large amount of OAP drivers in my area and the standard of driving is horrific. Disabled is such a generalisation, it is why i said 'grey area' in my previous post.
Wigwam was right in his assumption of the scandalous issuing of disabled badges.

My rant.

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