ustolemyname??stevieturbo

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I also noticed a lot of the cars running Dunlop Sport R tyres.. Where do you get them? Im sure that they are not exactly a road tyre, although they may be road legal. Looked to be very grippy though.
Im sure it would be possible for a subaru to break the 180mph though, which all things considered, isnt too unrealistic. Thats not that much less than the skylines which do have a lot more power. 8000 in 5th with 4.44 and 225/45x17 should see about 178mph. Perhaps it may not quite be as easy to manage it in the distance given though. The legacy only did 158.6mph, but he lifted before the line, as he thought he heard something wrong. It turned out that we think it was a chrome strip above the windscreen coming off, as its no longer on the car. I also think that the legacy would be a slightly more aerodynamic car, for top speed runs, but we still need more power.

[Edited by ustolemyname??stevieturbo - 8/6/2002 5:56:09 PM]

200PlusClub

hello to all

many thanks to all clubs and participants, spectators, helpers etc, who made today a superb event. hope you all had a great day as well.

a fantastic day of action for people and some VERY fast cars. hopefully the best ever gathering ever seen in the uk, hope you agree!.
all the full results will be available later in the week on our website
www.trackdayplus.com
(we will probably post up the entire set in excel format, with every timed run, plus the top speed and handling cct times.) bear with us on that, to start with we will put out all the main results, and for each club a top ten etc.

we have two categories (fastest evo and GTI-R laps) to sort and award. just wasnt time to sift and verify the full lap times for those.
will be announced by end of week, and prizes/trophies sent out.

todays highlights and results

Fastest Drag Run 500 time (10am-3.30pm)
Class A Andy Nicholls Maestro turbo 14.19s 115mph
Class B Leon Green Supra turbo 12.96s 138mph
Class C Ronnie Skyline R33 11.97s 142mph

Fastest Lap
Class A Ian Blundell RS turbo 37.76s
Class b Martin Bell Fireblade Fury 33.79s
Class C Gareth LLoyd RS Esc cos 31.9s

Fastest Subaru Lap John Felstead

Highest Top Speed on day (approx 1.3miles!)
Class A Christian Major RS turbo 153.6mph
Class B Leon Green Supra 185.2mph
Class C Ronnie Skyline R33 196.6mph!!!!!!

Shootout winners Head-to-head 500m
Class A Andy Nicholls Maestro turbo 14.45s 111.5mph
bt Paul Ripley RS fiesta 15.02s 103mph

class B Leon Green supra 14.7s 139mph bt Mark Shead RS cos 22.03s 35 (run aborted)

class C Ronnie skyline r33 12.12s 135mph bt Glen Horncastle Skyline 13.02s 129mph

Overall 2wd Champion head to head
Andy Nicholls Maestro turbo 13.97s 119mph bt Leon green Supra (red light disq!)

Overall Shootout Winner 2wd vs 4wd
Ronnie Skyline R33 12.41s 140mph bt Andy Nicholls Maestro turbo 14.16s 118mph

final run for cameras
Skyline R33 Ronnie vs Leon Green Supra
12.38s 139mph 14.0 135mph


Class results 500m top 5 (from all runs in qualifying)

Class A Andy N 14.19s 115mph
2nd Paul ripley 14.86 112mph
Keith Taylor 14.98s 116mph
Sunny Khalsa 15.15s 114mph
Nigel Burroughes 15.67s 107mph

Class B
Leon Green 12.96s 138mph
Paul Ergatoudis Porsche GT2 13.23s 127mph
Mark Shead RS cos 13.39s 129mph
Steve Scott focus WRC 13.49s 131mph
Nadine Geary Viper GTS 13.84s 125mph

Class C
Ronnie Skyline R33 11.97s 142mph
Gareth Lloyd Esc cos 12.4s 129mph
Norris designs Evo 12.43s 135mph
Andy Barnes Skyline R33 13.1 130mph
Glen Horncastle R34 skyline 13.13s 127mph

thats it for now folks, full results in the week, will include all clubs lists.

website is www.trackdayplus.com

major plug for the video/dvd made today,will be available via website and post and trax 2002. all the cars, action etc, in-car, external , interviews etc.

see you all in 2003 for the Top ten II
(prob similar date and same venue)
rgds
chris m
200 plus

Bruiser.STi

Those times are for 500m!!!! Standing start??

That is so impressive!!!!

johnfelstead

Fantastic day chris! Some amazing cars there!

My time was 33.67s on the handling circuit so i beat the fisher fury. LOL Not bad for a standard STi5 TypeRA.

200PlusClub

well done john
the fastest lap winning 4wd car was a stripped out 515bhp escort cos, and was into 31.9s times. the 720bhp R33 that did 196mph did a 32.5 ish run! u were well on the pace!
rgds

harvey

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John: At the end you had a 33.04 and I think the 33.67 was the run where you spun backwards through the timing gear. Amazing times, allthe more so from a standard RA...and coming through backwards...well??? with no time loss.

johnfelstead

Hi Harvey, your right.

Funny how that time i set backwards stuck in my mind. LOL

Dream Weaver

Chris M

Well done on a superbly organised and attended event. I will definately be taking part next year

DW

Little Miss WRX

Excellent day

Thank you

Tim W

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Chris thanks for all your efforts it was a great laugh!

Hopefuuly will be back next year, with more power and launch control

ianc

top day, may even enter my little beast next year.

Simon R

Awesome day, blindingly quick cars

This needs to be run more often, just one question though which is really bugging me....

Why oh why oh why oh why!!! was the run over 500M ???!?!?!?

It just doesn't make sense, I mean, a 1/4 mile is near enough 400M isn't it? Which would make the times much more comparable in the real world

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, it just seems so.....weird ?

Seriously hoping there is gonna be another of these soon

rik1471

So basically not one Subaru won anything??

Maybe you're driving the wrong motors??

Andy.F

To give the Skylines a chance to catch the scoobs of course

Makalu

196.6 mph?

Thats obscene!

Anyone hear the sonic boom?

Mak.

Tarty!

I though a 0-500m was set rather than 1/4 mile, as some of the people with cars such as Porsches, Skylines, etc, etc, didn't want to get shown up by Evos, Subarus, etc!

Shame really!

Puff The Magic Wagon!

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Chris

Just like to add my thanks for providing a nice big safe area for me to hoon around in

The guys running it must've got fed up of seeing me keep turning up Thanks to them too

At one point, I was the only bugger on it & just kept doing lap after lap Actually allowed the brakes time to warm up - but the clutch started to smell a bit. Ran out of tyres too

As can be shown from my pathetic showing over the 500m, I'm not a straightline car & never professed to be, but I beat a Skyline

Once again, many thanks for organising it all & putting up with us lot. I hope that you enjoyed it to.

Puff The Magic Wagon!

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Rik

Its not the winning, but the taking part Besides, JF won a nice cup and a strut-brace - b'stard

The 500m is because that is apparently the new RAC recognised short sprint distance and also recognised for world records etc - or some such reason.

johnfelstead

500m is the guiness world record distance.

No scoob was ever going to win on the drag runs to 500m, 1.2 miles. The skylines are just too powerful with their much larger capacity and stronger engines. The only scoob capable of beating them to 500m would be marks IMHO, but he hasnt even had a week with the engine in the car yet.

Scoob's stand best chance on the handling circuit, which is what scoobs are all about really. Considering i have a pretty standard car, i think being 0.04 seconds behind the 580BHP EVO and just 1.14 behind the fastest car of Gareth Lloyd is pretty good. I think with decent suspension and R spec tyres, even with a stock engine my TypeRA has a chance of winning that part of the event next time.

RB5SCOTT

Its not the car but the driver John

Puff The Magic Wagon!

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John

If we get an event like this again, prehaps we should swap cars? See what the differences are!

Should've done that for a few trips on Sunday...

ianc

Watching both was great, both cornered very well.

johnfelstead

Yep, i agree James, that would have been very interesting! I thought you drove incredibly well! i was worried for a while.

It would have been easier to be more spectacular if the track was set out wider. Still have the tight corners in places to keep the speed to a sensible level, but have the cones much wider. That way i could have been much more agresive with power slides on exit and maybe even got away with handbraking it to set up a long drift.

The course was very much autotest type tightness in two places, i think for this type of event just opening that up a bit more would be fantastic for the cameras and the types of cars running.

Still a fabulous fun course though.

johnfelstead

Thanks Scott.

I would have been chuffed to get as close to Gareth as i did even if i was driving his car as he is one seriously quick driver. Gareth has won the Formula Saloons championship and the Ace Vehicles Deliveries Championship outright, plus his class in the Nurburgring 24hr race, he is bloody good!

ustolemyname??stevieturbo

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I dont want to knock anyones times, but I dont really think that a short handling circuit would really show the best for the big power cars. Turbo lag would be a major problem. Did you see the size of those bloody things???????????

johnfelstead

It was pretty much real world road speeds though, which i think was part of the design thinking there as this was a competition for road legal cars, not race cars.

I was hitting 85MPH into the last corner braking point.

R19KET

A subaru will never win the top speed runs, unless someone decides to run the gearing to do it.

The Highest I saw on the clock, was 7500rpm in 5th (170mph approx, based on gearing) but the car was missfiring so badly due to the massive overfuelling, that I had to lift off, well before I could even see the 1.3mile timing gate.

All things considered, I was very happy with the results. I only got the car back Fri' night, I've not driven a Scoob in anger for nearly a year, and the car was running like a pile of sh*te, compared to how it will go, when the mapping has been addressed.

13th overall, in that company, with a car that was being mapped inbetween the 3 runs..... next year

For all those who think the Scoobs did poorly in the sprints, wait until the full results are posted, and then compare the times.

Mark.

Puff The Magic Wagon!

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Yup - gotta agree that its not all about straightline go. The best thing would've been an amalgamation of straightline + handling, so Lloyd would've won Guess much more complicated

I was contemplating a change to 4th sometimes to see if that had any impact as it was near the limiter before the breaking point last corner.

BTW John, were you using the black cone as a break point? I tried to ignore it & go further, but it was like a bloody magnet to the brake peddle! Also found that there was a wider black concrete break in line before that last corner & a couple of times the back-end skipped out as I went over it

johnfelstead

I wasnt using any cones for braking, as they can get moved. I find it's safer to use something on the track surface as a reference point. I was using a black piece of **** as a basic reference, although almost every lap i tried something new with the lines and braking points to see what would work. My last run sort of tied together all the small gains i was making by experimenting on the previous runs.

The funny thing is, the one lap they rigged me for a camera head shot i went off at the first proper corner, made a right pigs ear of it so no doubt will look a **** on the video. LOL

I did have a craking wet run with the camera running though, i hope they use that as it should show how you can drag the car through a corner using the front diff, you should have heard the centre diff giving it some on the first left hander, talk about agressive!

The R rated tyres were worth some time i would think, how much i am not so sure on a sprint circuit.

We cant really compare gears used, i was doing 8100rpm in 3rd at the braking point.

RB5SCOTT

My car is geared to do 175 true mph ( 24.something mph per 1000rpm * 7.4rpm)

But it will never bloody do it because of that great big thing on the back 150mph @ 6000rpm is my limit give me 400bhp

Scott