Scoob causes serious accident on M6, yesterday...
21 August 2002, 11:25 AM
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Our office received word yesterday, that three of our staff had been involved in an accident on the M6. 
They were in a Renault Clio which had just stopped on the hard shoulder. Two in the front, and one in the back.
The Clio was struck from behind, and the emergency services had to cut the rear passenger out of the vehicle and she was taken by air ambulance to hospital - She has severe spinal damage and is paralysed from the chest down.
Yesterday was her first day back at work after a holiday in Australia.
Eye-witness accounts say a Subaru Impreza Turbo suddenly hoofed it from a group of traffic and decided to undertake an HGV by using the hard shoulder. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Suddenly, I feel rather conspicuous - Everybody keeps asking "You drive one of those, don't you?"
This isn't an exercise in blame - I just want everyone to think twice about dodgy driving antics and to be thankful for good health and our loved ones...
They were in a Renault Clio which had just stopped on the hard shoulder. Two in the front, and one in the back.
The Clio was struck from behind, and the emergency services had to cut the rear passenger out of the vehicle and she was taken by air ambulance to hospital - She has severe spinal damage and is paralysed from the chest down.
Yesterday was her first day back at work after a holiday in Australia.
Eye-witness accounts say a Subaru Impreza Turbo suddenly hoofed it from a group of traffic and decided to undertake an HGV by using the hard shoulder. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Suddenly, I feel rather conspicuous - Everybody keeps asking "You drive one of those, don't you?"
This isn't an exercise in blame - I just want everyone to think twice about dodgy driving antics and to be thankful for good health and our loved ones...
21 August 2002, 11:34 AM
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Awful news mate. There are always a few prats that give everyone else a bad name. Nobody in your office should blame you just because you happen to drive a Scooby as well.
[Edited by jasonwrxowner - 8/21/2002 11:37:33 AM]
[Edited by jasonwrxowner - 8/21/2002 11:37:33 AM]
21 August 2002, 11:36 AM
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Thats horrible to hear, what happend to the Scooby driver??, did he have serious injury??
Really makes you think how easy it is for you life to change so quickly, even worse when it isnt your fault.
Really makes you think how easy it is for you life to change so quickly, even worse when it isnt your fault.
21 August 2002, 11:39 AM
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There is just no accounting for the total stupidity of some people [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Sorry to hear about your collegue
Obviously, it could have been any car, but some people think that because they have a fast car it gives them a god-given right to not to have to sit in traffic like everyone else [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] Not a dig, just a general observation.
Sorry to hear about your collegue
Obviously, it could have been any car, but some people think that because they have a fast car it gives them a god-given right to not to have to sit in traffic like everyone else [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] Not a dig, just a general observation.
21 August 2002, 11:41 AM
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Poor, poor girl Did the Police get the Impreza driver responsible for ruining the rest of this girls' life?
It makes me so bloody mad when I see people undertaking on the hard shoulder, no matter what car they're driving. Unfortunately I've seen a fair few Scooby drivers doing really stupid things on the motorway too, the last of which was on Sunday on the M6 also. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
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Did the Police get the Impreza driver responsible for ruining the rest of this girls' life? It makes me so bloody mad when I see people undertaking on the hard shoulder, no matter what car they're driving. Unfortunately I've seen a fair few Scooby drivers doing really stupid things on the motorway too, the last of which was on Sunday on the M6 also. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
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21 August 2002, 11:49 AM
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Fookin Idiots[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] They should be banned for life and given a prison sentance, that will give them time to think about why they ruined somebodies life[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
21 August 2002, 11:51 AM
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Horrendous and tragic.
However, if this were an Evo which had done this, then the same post would've appeared on that forum.
There is no accounting for this kind of stupidity, but lets remember that it's the driver that caused this, not the car.
However we'll all be tarnished with the same brush because of it.
However, if this were an Evo which had done this, then the same post would've appeared on that forum.
There is no accounting for this kind of stupidity, but lets remember that it's the driver that caused this, not the car.
However we'll all be tarnished with the same brush because of it.
21 August 2002, 12:08 PM
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I see this sort of thing at least once or twice a week when driving down the M4, (usually rep type cars). Terrible thing to happen, but it reinforces the police advice that if you stop on the hard shoulder, get out of the car and up the bank as quickly as possible.....
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21 August 2002, 12:10 PM
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Shame it wasn't the Scoob driver that needed cutting out. Simple fact is the more Imprezas on the road the more likely some prat will own one.
Five door on the M/way last week decided it was to much trouble to accelerate past an arctic before his exit. So undertook and did around half a mile on the hard shoulder before joining the slip road
Five door on the M/way last week decided it was to much trouble to accelerate past an arctic before his exit. So undertook and did around half a mile on the hard shoulder before joining the slip road
21 August 2002, 12:16 PM
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This is tragic news, and emphasises how important it is to get out of you car asap if stopped in the Hard shoulder. Was the Scoob nicked? this guy was seriously in a hurry
21 August 2002, 12:26 PM
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Terrible news and all those involved (bar the lunatic) have my sympathies.
You should not feel in any way guilty because you drive a Scooby.
I don't think The entire Mondeo driving population should feel guilty if one of their gang causes a smash.
That would be a lot of upset people!
You should not feel in any way guilty because you drive a Scooby.
I don't think The entire Mondeo driving population should feel guilty if one of their gang causes a smash.
That would be a lot of upset people!
21 August 2002, 12:30 PM
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This tragic news.
People that undertake on the hard shoulder should face an automatic ban. I was stuck in the M25 mess on Monday and three B<Ws went down the hard shoulder. In two hours I travelled 10 miles at no point was I even tempted to think about following them. Just as well really a we crawled along we came accross them again, stopped on the hard shoulder with a Policeman and his T5.
Shame the traffic stopped again so I could watch them getting tickets!
People that undertake on the hard shoulder should face an automatic ban. I was stuck in the M25 mess on Monday and three B<Ws went down the hard shoulder. In two hours I travelled 10 miles at no point was I even tempted to think about following them. Just as well really a we crawled along we came accross them again, stopped on the hard shoulder with a Policeman and his T5.
Shame the traffic stopped again so I could watch them getting tickets!
21 August 2002, 12:36 PM
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I agree with all of you.
I have no information on the condition of the scoob driver.
Here's hoping that bruising/swelling etc, is causing much of her symptoms and that she'll be OK.
(Edited for speeling)
[Edited by Squizz - 8/21/2002 12:37:11 PM]
I have no information on the condition of the scoob driver.
Here's hoping that bruising/swelling etc, is causing much of her symptoms and that she'll be OK.
(Edited for speeling)
[Edited by Squizz - 8/21/2002 12:37:11 PM]
21 August 2002, 12:46 PM
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I hope she gets well soon and as you say, hopefully its just alot of swelling etc thats causing the problem for her 
I really do hope that they got the scoob driver (very good possibility) and that they throw the book at him and loose the key [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Tony
and as you say, hopefully its just alot of swelling etc thats causing the problem for her I really do hope that they got the scoob driver (very good possibility) and that they throw the book at him and loose the key [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
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21 August 2002, 02:52 PM
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Deadful news ! Lets hope that she makes a full and speedy recovery and whoever was driving down the hard shoulder gets what they deserve.......
Very unfortunate that it had to be a scooby
! Lets hope that she makes a full and speedy recovery and whoever was driving down the hard shoulder gets what they deserve.......Very unfortunate that it had to be a scooby
21 August 2002, 02:56 PM
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So what - it was an Impreza. What's the big deal? You get ********* driving all marques. I don't see there's any need to be ashamed or 'conspicuous' of being a Scoob driver....
21 August 2002, 03:55 PM
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Hi there,
Hope the young lass makes a quick and full recovery.
I saw a similar situation last sat night.
I was driving along in the fast lane (overtaking a lorry) and these little t*ats in a festa in the nearside lane. They decided not to do a normal overtake but an undertake at ~85 Mph.
Later on in traffic it behind me flashing lights etc. (at nigh on 90. If I had breaked they would be in my car) I decided that I wasnt having this, when the road cleared I accelerated to over 110 mph and lost them in the mirror. It wasnt big and it wasnt clever, on my part or theirs but it annoys me so much these idiots, in their junk cars trying to race anyone and anything irrespective of danger.
On the other hand, there are some really sensible young drivers. There was one in a M reg Wrx the other day and he followed for a while and we came to a slip road and I fully expected him to roar past me irrespective of the consequences, but he didnt. He didnt even rev his engine or anything (yes it was moving
) and we was just a very good driver IMHO. Well done fella. If only all young drivers where this road concious.
Unfortunatly you get good and bad wherever you go.
[Edited by Stueyb - 8/21/2002 3:57:01 PM]
Hope the young lass makes a quick and full recovery.
I saw a similar situation last sat night.
I was driving along in the fast lane (overtaking a lorry) and these little t*ats in a festa in the nearside lane. They decided not to do a normal overtake but an undertake at ~85 Mph.
Later on in traffic it behind me flashing lights etc. (at nigh on 90. If I had breaked they would be in my car) I decided that I wasnt having this, when the road cleared I accelerated to over 110 mph and lost them in the mirror. It wasnt big and it wasnt clever, on my part or theirs but it annoys me so much these idiots, in their junk cars trying to race anyone and anything irrespective of danger.
On the other hand, there are some really sensible young drivers. There was one in a M reg Wrx the other day and he followed for a while and we came to a slip road and I fully expected him to roar past me irrespective of the consequences, but he didnt. He didnt even rev his engine or anything (yes it was moving
) and we was just a very good driver IMHO. Well done fella. If only all young drivers where this road concious.Unfortunatly you get good and bad wherever you go.
[Edited by Stueyb - 8/21/2002 3:57:01 PM]
21 August 2002, 05:00 PM
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MarkO - I see what you're saying, but at the same time, it's human nature to feel conspicuous (spelt right??) in this type of situation.
Rik has every right to feel how he feels - it's his office mates who are "pointing the finger"..... The phrase "made to feel as welcome as a fart in a spacesuit" comes to mind.....
I'd feel a little awkward, but at the same time, I would try not to be intimidated by anybody else. After all, it's not his fault is it?
Sorry to hear about this Rik, hopefully, as you say, it's just trauma swelling and in time, things will be better.
Not that anybody there knows me, but please pass on my best wishes mate
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Rik has every right to feel how he feels - it's his office mates who are "pointing the finger"..... The phrase "made to feel as welcome as a fart in a spacesuit" comes to mind.....
I'd feel a little awkward, but at the same time, I would try not to be intimidated by anybody else. After all, it's not his fault is it?
Sorry to hear about this Rik, hopefully, as you say, it's just trauma swelling and in time, things will be better.
Not that anybody there knows me, but please pass on my best wishes mate
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21 August 2002, 05:24 PM
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That is awful news.
Unfortunately as the impreza get more soft/mainstream and less hardcore there will be more tw@ats driving scoobs. Cocky rep/company car dirver suddenly has quite a rapid car as opposed to old vectra/318 and thinks that his new found speed can let him take more risks/stupid overtaking attempts.
I am begginning to see it quite often now from said reps etc driving my01/02 scoobs.
In traffic jams i often see lorris pulling half onto the hard shouder to stop cocky ***** driving down it near junctions. Dont approve of this either(restricts emergency services) but i guess if someone is driving down the hard shoulder and goes into the back of a lorry they only have themselves to blame and i'm glad that they will be temporarily off the road.
Unfortunately as the impreza get more soft/mainstream and less hardcore there will be more tw@ats driving scoobs. Cocky rep/company car dirver suddenly has quite a rapid car as opposed to old vectra/318 and thinks that his new found speed can let him take more risks/stupid overtaking attempts.
I am begginning to see it quite often now from said reps etc driving my01/02 scoobs.
In traffic jams i often see lorris pulling half onto the hard shouder to stop cocky ***** driving down it near junctions. Dont approve of this either(restricts emergency services) but i guess if someone is driving down the hard shoulder and goes into the back of a lorry they only have themselves to blame and i'm glad that they will be temporarily off the road.
21 August 2002, 05:56 PM
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Nat21 - what a load of utter, utter b*llocks.
Why would a rep never drive on the hard shoulder in a 318 - then get a new scoob and start driving like a ****. if they're a **** they'll drive like a **** in any car - Mondeo, Impreza, Fiesta whatever.
..and how many reps are going to have a new WRX when the company car tax is based on CO2 emissions and WRX's have some of the highest emissions going, putting it in the top tax bracket?
If anything it's the older scoobs that are getting cheaper and are falling into the hands of the 'boy racer' brigade that are causing more trouble.
btw - i'm not rep.
[Edited by Jon1T - 8/21/2002 6:05:56 PM]
Why would a rep never drive on the hard shoulder in a 318 - then get a new scoob and start driving like a ****. if they're a **** they'll drive like a **** in any car - Mondeo, Impreza, Fiesta whatever.
..and how many reps are going to have a new WRX when the company car tax is based on CO2 emissions and WRX's have some of the highest emissions going, putting it in the top tax bracket?
If anything it's the older scoobs that are getting cheaper and are falling into the hands of the 'boy racer' brigade that are causing more trouble.
btw - i'm not rep.
[Edited by Jon1T - 8/21/2002 6:05:56 PM]
21 August 2002, 06:02 PM
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The driver should be charged with at least a GBH or attempted murder.
Anyway, the highway code did say that if the car breaks down, all occupants should leave the car & wait for rescue behind the motorway barriers.
Anyway, the highway code did say that if the car breaks down, all occupants should leave the car & wait for rescue behind the motorway barriers.
21 August 2002, 06:53 PM
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Jon -
I was inferring that they might drive on hard shoulder to undertake a lorry in a rapidish car (scoob) when they wouldnt in a 318 becasue the new found speed makes them think it is safer because such a move would take less time. (less TED) If they know they can blast by an artic quickly in a scoob they would be more likely to than if they know it would take a few secs longer in a mondeo/318/whatever.
I also find that when poor drivers move upto a faster/better handling car they seem to think that they are suddenly a lot safer and can take more risks.
I am speeking from my own experiences.
I am now seeing a lot more new scoobs on the motorways in the middle of the day/afternoon. i know this is not always right but if i see a newish car driven by a person in a suit/jacket in back/on phone on the motorway in the middle of the day then there is a good chance they are a rep/company car driver.
There are not many young/hooligans/boy racers in old WRXs/cossies/rs's caning about the motorways in the middle of the day from what i see. Ahough i aggree that this type of driver also behaves stupidly/dangerously on occasion. The majority of drivers on motorways in non peak hours in an average week (not holiday season) are from what i see professionals/couriers/trucks/reps.
What i am trying to say is - Having a faster car makes some people believe that they can take greater risks. If the driver of a fast car is not very skilled then the risk taken can be too great and thats when they might cause an accident.
[Edited by Nat21 - 8/21/2002 6:57:31 PM]
I was inferring that they might drive on hard shoulder to undertake a lorry in a rapidish car (scoob) when they wouldnt in a 318 becasue the new found speed makes them think it is safer because such a move would take less time. (less TED) If they know they can blast by an artic quickly in a scoob they would be more likely to than if they know it would take a few secs longer in a mondeo/318/whatever.
I also find that when poor drivers move upto a faster/better handling car they seem to think that they are suddenly a lot safer and can take more risks.
I am speeking from my own experiences.
I am now seeing a lot more new scoobs on the motorways in the middle of the day/afternoon. i know this is not always right but if i see a newish car driven by a person in a suit/jacket in back/on phone on the motorway in the middle of the day then there is a good chance they are a rep/company car driver.
There are not many young/hooligans/boy racers in old WRXs/cossies/rs's caning about the motorways in the middle of the day from what i see. Ahough i aggree that this type of driver also behaves stupidly/dangerously on occasion. The majority of drivers on motorways in non peak hours in an average week (not holiday season) are from what i see professionals/couriers/trucks/reps.
What i am trying to say is - Having a faster car makes some people believe that they can take greater risks. If the driver of a fast car is not very skilled then the risk taken can be too great and thats when they might cause an accident.
[Edited by Nat21 - 8/21/2002 6:57:31 PM]
21 August 2002, 07:15 PM
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Sorry to hear about the crash. What a prat.
I drive a Lorry for a living and a 300bhp Scooby when i want a bit of fun. So I spend most of my time on the road.
All cars are potentialy dangerous. V high performace cars like scoobys etc have to be treated with respect or you will kill yourself or someone else. I have a huge amount of driving experience, but realise everytime I have a bit of fun in the sccoby I am only a few seconds away from death. The faster you drive the more dangerous it is. We are all human and we all will make mistakes. I drive very very defensively but sometimes very quickly - or very slowly if I am in my lorry.
I realy feel strongly that after people have passed their driving test. People should go on a brief compulsory course that talks about RWD/FWD/AWD the physics of weight distribution. Road conditions. How to drive defensively. The consequences of traffic accidents, the blood - pictures of dead people etc
I know this would cost money but surely this may make people more aware of how potentialy leathal their car/lorry is and perhaps make them think twice before chucking a high performance car onto the hard shoulder and maiming some one.
Sorry about the rant, but I do feel strongly about this. and I hate old gits that sit in the middle lane.
Steve
I drive a Lorry for a living and a 300bhp Scooby when i want a bit of fun. So I spend most of my time on the road.
All cars are potentialy dangerous. V high performace cars like scoobys etc have to be treated with respect or you will kill yourself or someone else. I have a huge amount of driving experience, but realise everytime I have a bit of fun in the sccoby I am only a few seconds away from death. The faster you drive the more dangerous it is. We are all human and we all will make mistakes. I drive very very defensively but sometimes very quickly - or very slowly if I am in my lorry.
I realy feel strongly that after people have passed their driving test. People should go on a brief compulsory course that talks about RWD/FWD/AWD the physics of weight distribution. Road conditions. How to drive defensively. The consequences of traffic accidents, the blood - pictures of dead people etc
I know this would cost money but surely this may make people more aware of how potentialy leathal their car/lorry is and perhaps make them think twice before chucking a high performance car onto the hard shoulder and maiming some one.
Sorry about the rant, but I do feel strongly about this. and I hate old gits that sit in the middle lane.
Steve
21 August 2002, 07:25 PM
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I hate even more.........old gits that sit in middle lane, you follow them for a mile, they dont move over, then you flash them, they wake up, move over and.......shake their fists/mouth off at you when you go by like you're a **** for daring to disute their 'ownership' of middle lane.
