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Old 07 February 2003, 11:35 PM
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Mine has done 46K mate so not worried about it (yet )

Let us know what they say when you get it checked??

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Old 02 July 2003, 10:34 PM
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I've just got my first scoob, as some of you might know, but im experiencing a bad judder through the car when i pull away steadily in first, it only happens now and then but the whole car shudders when it does. Theres no engine trouble cos the revs etc are faultless but theres somethin there? At first i thought it maybe cos i wasn't used to the car but im 28 and never had this with other performance cars ive had. Anyone got an opinion or advice. Ta
Old 02 July 2003, 10:36 PM
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Depending on the year mate I have heard that it is a common problem with Clutch Judder!!

I know mine suffers with it sometimes
Old 02 July 2003, 10:38 PM
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its a MY97, how bad does it get and how often??
Old 02 July 2003, 10:41 PM
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Have it on my MY98 when it's cold and damp mainly. Tends to go away when the thing warms up.

Apparently giving a couple of "full bore starts" helps things by cleaning up the clutch plates etc or so I was told.

Strangely enough it's very rare that I get the judder
Old 02 July 2003, 10:41 PM
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Well mine only seems to do it when cold.

Don't really know how bad it can get. Maybe do a search in Drivetrain or maybe someone more wiser could let us both know??
Old 02 July 2003, 10:42 PM
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does it shudder all the time ?

Is it just when hot

is it just when cold ?

is the clutch slipping ?

personally i would get it looked at professionaly, bit of judder can some times be curered with a full on drag racing start, but if your clutch is fubar the flywheel may have warped as well, it may not be that, could be something a lot more expensive

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Old 02 July 2003, 10:44 PM
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Must admit after a good blast it seems to disapear but cant help think theres somethin waitin to go???
Old 02 July 2003, 10:52 PM
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Mine does it from cold only (my98)

Goes away after a few mins driving.

I shat myself first time it happened...thought i'd broke summit !
Old 02 July 2003, 11:02 PM
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Does it do it evry time tho, or was it just at first when tou got it???
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Doesnt do it all the time on mine!! + Only noticed it in 1st

Mine seems to be OK if I use a few more revs off the line

Dont think it is to serious or anything to worry about mate

Edited twice cause I can't type tonight!!

[Edited by 248SPG - 7/2/2003 11:05:35 PM]

[Edited by 248SPG - 7/2/2003 11:06:24 PM]
Old 02 July 2003, 11:07 PM
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Does it not worry you tho lads? Glad to see theres a few of you out there with the same problem, gonna have to get it checked out tho i think, mines done 50k how many miles have yours done??
Old 02 July 2003, 11:38 PM
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mine does the same thing , clutch judder , but as said only when cold and goes after five minutes or so , i'm not worried about it ,
Old 02 July 2003, 11:38 PM
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np m8. Gonna go to the main dealers and ask what the crack is. Add you name to the fav's and i'll let you know.
Old 02 July 2003, 11:40 PM
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Mine judders when cold too (MY98) looks like a common my98 feature
Old 02 July 2003, 11:41 PM
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Added all your names to the vip list, soon as i find out what they say i'll let you know.
Old 02 July 2003, 11:44 PM
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Yup also got a MY98 and mine does it also, not nice to drive some times

Andy
Old 03 July 2003, 08:30 AM
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It happens rarely but occasionally on my MY00. Again, only when cold and even then just for the first clutch engagement or two.

I read on this board that a couple have it on a bug eye also so it isn't limited to a particular MY.

I'll keep an eye on what you come up with.
Old 03 July 2003, 08:54 AM
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If you bought the car with any warranty get a new clutch off em!! like everybody says nothing to really worry about,but it shouldnt be there in the first place,
Old 03 July 2003, 09:05 AM
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Yeah but as it's rare it never happens when you want to show it to anyone. I think it's happened to me 2 or 3 times in 20k miles.

Also, what could it be? It can't be a worn out clutch 'cus it would do it all the time if that was the case.

If someone manages to resolve it then the rest of us may have a place to start.

I understand that a few people have had their clutch changed because of clutch judder but only when the judder is pretty much there to stay.

It's a bit like many people that very rarely their car turns over but doesn't start immediately. People have talked about this a lot. This is another item that can happen rarely - it has happened to me twice. Some folk have put this down to the throttle sensor being unsettled which can be put right by depressing the accelerator once before starting.

Could it be that these cars just have a little twitch every now and again? Dunno.
Old 03 July 2003, 09:49 AM
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Peeps,

I was told this when my MY01 GX 'bugeye' had the problem.

Problem: Clutch judder especially when cold occationally when warm

Reason: Bad flywheel castings, apparantly the flywheel wears and 'expands' differently when cold and hot (it ends up 'warped' when cold and expands to near perfect when hot)

Solution: Replace Flywheel for 'proper casted one' (mine was under warranty @15K miles so they replaced to whole ca'bang)

Hope this sheds some light on it (or some sh*te on it)

Simon
Old 03 July 2003, 10:52 AM
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When I first had my MY98 it scared me too.

Apparently normal behaviour and nothing to worry about.

Mine does it more when the weather is cold but is not unusual when I take the car out from cold start. Use a few more revs to stop it doing it and then it goes away after a few miles driving.

Ignore it. As we may say in the software game. It is a "feature"
Old 03 July 2003, 10:58 AM
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mine does the same (my00) but again only when cold. only happened a couple of times in 9 months. my birds dad is a good mechanic and he said it just takes a few mins for the auto choke and sensors to settle down. nothing to worry about fellas.

gav..
Old 03 July 2003, 11:13 AM
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I have had my clutch changed twice now under warranty (MY99, 45k) - stops it for a while then happens again.

Search for it on here and loads of people have had the same problem.
Old 03 July 2003, 01:02 PM
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Yep very common problem. My MY00 is now on it's third clutch, dealers are now fitting what's called a Flexi Flywheel which more or less cures the problem.
I've also had problems with sqeeling release bearings.

I got the new design fitted to mine about 2K ago and it has reduced the problem to acceptable but not eliminated it. I've been lucky, all work done under warranty, dealers have been very good about it.

Oh and the new design has a much smoother ligher action.
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Old 03 July 2003, 01:07 PM
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Mine's a 00MY and judders from cold occasionally, but it disappears when the car's properly warmed up.

I'm told that some new Ferraris do it to

kev
Old 03 July 2003, 01:11 PM
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My MY02 occasionally does it from cold, but only once or twice then goes away after about 5 mins.
Once warmed up all nice and dandy
Old 03 July 2003, 03:07 PM
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MY99, 68K on the clock, and judders from cold. stops when it is warmed up.
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Old 03 July 2003, 03:11 PM
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I bought an MY97 a few years back with 53,000 miles and it had exactly the same problem, I took it back to the dealer and got a new clutch and flywheel. I think the clutch lining goes on this particular model.
Old 05 July 2003, 02:37 AM
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MY00 70k miles - now on 3rd clutch. New clutch seems to make it disappear for a while, but it returns. I find that it goes after a few "quick" starts, and just live with it.
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