Hmmm, timing belt. While you don't need a new one, the fact that the belt needs to be removed and refitted anyway means it may be worthwhile, as you'll then have 45K miles before it needs doing again.

On the other hand, if you're planning on selling the car in the next 25K, you may as well save yourself the 50 quid or so it's presumably costing you.

Same goes with the clutch really. If it feels worn and you're going to be keeping the car for a while, get it changed. If it feels alright and you're planning on changing the car in the not too distant future, keep it.

Edited to say that if you're certain the guy knows his stuff and is offering a warranty on his work, £500 all in isn't cheap, but isn't too far wide of the mark.

On the other hand though, if you're not absolutely sure of him, and there's no written warranty, have another look round. If the job is botched, especially the timing belt tensioner removal/refit, the result could be a badly (and very expensively) damaged engine, so in cases like this, it's worth paying extra to get the job done properly, but you need to be certain that the job's been done properly.

[Edited by greasemonkey - 8/5/2003 7:51:49 PM]

 

Afternoon guys

Need to have some work done on my Type-R unfortunately!

Crackshaft oil seals (front and back, yes front and back) need doing due to slight leaks.

Whilst this has to be done and the engine out I have been advised to put in a new clutch and change the timing belt (please note this was done 20,000 miles ago)

I have been quoted £500 incl VAT by someone who seems to know what he is on about. Is this a good deal?

Please let me know, and also if you think I need new timing belt.

Cheers guys

MJ

 

TBH I am surprised that it needs a rear main oil seal.I have nevr had to change one on any Scoob yet in over 10 years unless it was in the course of a rebuild I can honestly say I have never seen one leak.What usually leaks from behind the flywheel is a item called a oil seperator plate which is just a mastic seal(ususally 1215 three bond)
If I was pricing the job I would break it down like this

Front crank oil seal = 2.5 hours labour maximum,part costs no more than a fiver
If it is the rear main = 5.5 hours labour to remove gearbox/clutch then no more than half an hour to replace rear main/reseal plate plus 20 quid max for the seal.
The cambelt I probably wouldnt replace but would give you the option but its a £120 option at that LOL.

I have to say that if the belt is included in the price and obviously VAT then its not too wide of the mark(working on £40 per hour labour rate).Just to clarify thats working to manufacturers prescribed times not "real world time

Hope that helps

Steve

 

Cheers Greasemonkey.

He really does seem to know his stuff and has specified that he will only work with genuine subaru parts if I want the warranty.

The clutch is on its way out, had it slip slightly in 5th under load occasionally. Plus it bite right at the top of the pedal.

May as well do the timing belt coz knowing my luck if i dont........ well you know the rest.

Forgot to say earlier that he will check all other aspects of the engine / turbo and re-set the car up so that it running at its optimum. He stated that he had all the necessary checking equipment (sorry not very technical).

He also stated that he has had two of these cars himself, so that surely should put me in good stead!!!

Any other advice or alternatives are appreciated though.

I am based in West Yorkshire so if any1 knows of anywhere better please let me know!!

Cheers

MJ

 

Cheers Steve for replying

it does include all parts including the clutch and timing belt.

Hope this sheds more light on the subject

 

Okay, M, it sounds like this guy could be on the money. Just a couple of things you might like to go forward with:

1) Ask him what method he uses to retract the timing belt tensioner, and come back here and tell us.

2) Ask him if he plans to do anything with the flywheel, other, of course, than remove and refit it. Again, come back and tell us.

If he gives you the right answer to both of those, it'll be a pretty good indicator that he really does know his stuff.

The only other thing, which probably goes without saying, is that if he's going to offer you a warranty, make certain he's going to be around long enough to honour it, and also make certain that you've got it on paper.

 

Wow, that's some pretty comprehensive replies. I'm impressed. Don't you just love scoobynet?

 

Hi J4ck50N - hope all will be well for the next Wakefield/Hudds meet....

All the best, HB.

 

I have to say that does not sound bad to me,depending on the quality of the replacement clutch. A good aftermarket clutch is pretty expensive and if you are keeping the car thats what I would suggest. If you have an original timing belt it should be good for another 25K miles. If he intends to fit a cheap one-don't do it. Worth doing the seals with the rest of the job. If the clutch has not been slipping badly the flywheel will probably be alright. But it should be closely inspected.

Les

 

sounds a very healthy price from my basic knowledge if yer keeping it & even if yer not the main cost for both cambelt & clutch is the labour so if you need a new clutch my advice is get an AP organic un or sumin, i paiod £800 just for clutch lgihtened flywheel & STi release bearing but feels so much better , & same with belt for £100 or whatever a belt costs get in there it's a very small cost in the big picture.
All IMO but then i am skint from having had 90k service & new clutch etc so far this year But all gota be done & i'm all in favour of doing the full monty rather than a cheaper half job thing Not saying yers aint pucker like thou
Si

 

Thats good advice

Les

 

Cheers Guys

Hi to Harryboy!!!

More gr8 replies for me to mull over.

How much is an AP Organic Clutch?? What are the benefits?

Thanks in advance

J4CK50N

 

erm check out scoobymania or sumin like that they were circa £300 or sumin like that as a ball park (ie dont quote me on that) but er well it means yer wheels will slip long before yer clutch will it's bleeding great but guess the transmission is next weekest link
Si

 

as in it grips a boll0k load more than the OE un
Si

 

Cheers mate!!