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Old 03 December 2003 | 10:00 PM
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Thinking of buying 2nd Hand Sat Nav does anyone know how much this costs to install. Probably a Head Unit and DVD Navi Unit.
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Old 03 December 2003 | 10:08 PM
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nothing if you fir it yourself.

I fitted sat nav in my 97 classic, 2 hours tops.

(The only hard bit is finding the speed pulse wire)
Old 03 December 2003 | 11:26 PM
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Paid about £170 but that included dvd player & tv card as well as sat nav

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Old 03 December 2003 | 11:45 PM
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£6.95 from most petrol stations.

Model number, 'Road Map.'

Unless you're a girl.

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Old 03 December 2003 | 11:50 PM
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I expect you add up in your head rather than use a calculator must take you days !

Seriously , Does a Classic have a speed pulse wire ?

Old 04 December 2003 | 01:26 AM
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Got an XDA2, a BlueTooth GPS device and TomTom Navigator 2...


Fits in as many cars as I want it to, takes about 3 seconds, right after I get into it

Who needs a fixed unit

Old 04 December 2003 | 02:10 AM
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Another thumbs up for the TOMTOM/PDA route, got mine connected to the output from my road angel GPS speed trap detector.

TOMTOM is a great bit of software, the 3D map and voice instructions are excellent.

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Old 04 December 2003 | 08:19 AM
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Do you find the display and sound are adequate with the PDA approach. Sounds like good option will look into it.

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Old 04 December 2003 | 10:21 AM
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Hi Richard Curtis

Interested in the Tom Tom approach as I have a road angel and see little point in having yet another GPS device in the car. How easy is it to link the 2 together, do you need a particular PDA and any special wiring?

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Old 04 December 2003 | 11:43 PM
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Olly,

I'm running mine with a Fujitsu Loox, 400Mhz, 64M ram.

I think it will run on most decent spec Pocket PC PDA's but check out TOMTOM on the web for compatibility details.

You'll need at least a 128Mb memory card to store the maps (the UK maps takes around 80Mb).

You'll also need a 9-way serial cable to go from the PDA to the output of the Road angel.

I had to make do with a fujitsu serial sync cable but the polarity was wrong for the road angel so I had to make a gender changer (just a few pounds for the parts).

Depends what PDA you go for you might be able to get a cable that directly connects but otherwise its a simple task of making an adapter.

Just set the road angel to output the GPS data and setup TOMTOM to accept 'NMEA 0183v2 4800' format GPS data and hey presto.

Any probs drop me a mail.

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edited to say - sound and display is very good, the only problem is mounting the PDA, you can buy holders but they look a bit of a ripoff. I just tell the wife to hold it

[Edited by Richard Curtis - 12/4/2003 10:45:08 PM]
Old 05 December 2003 | 01:19 AM
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I used to use TomTom and it was fine, but then I got a pukka system (Clarion NVS613) and theres no comparison! As for reading a map, its a hell of a lot easier and SAFER reading a moving map on a screen that also talks to you than a silent paper map on the pasenger seat that is usually on the wrong page at the time you really need to use it quickly! IMO its about time they invented safety camera's that ignore speed and spot drivers reading maps!

As for installation costs, I got mine fitted by the dealer (actually by the dealer rather than the dealer calling in another firm) when I bought the car and it cost me about £150 to fit the Nav system and a separate head unit.

As for the Classic having a speed sensor, I doubt it as the new cars don't. If you have a half decent NAV system, it should have a silicon giroscope which will effectively sense the speed and direction changes so should keep the correct position when in tunnels and other times when you have no GPS signal and will work fine without connecting speed and steering sensors! (Also another big advantage over the palm/GPS/TomTom solution).

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Old 10 December 2003 | 04:53 PM
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Well I have gone the Tom Tom route and to be honest £400 for a PDA that is Sat Nav capable is just fine as I can use the PDA for other stuff and move it about between cars with no hassle. Compare that to £1000+ I have seen for Sat Nav kits that are stuck in the car and can't be used anywhere else. Pay's your money etc..
Old 10 December 2003 | 04:58 PM
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Got to agree Olly. I've got an Ipaq 5450 with TomTom 2, and the great advantage is being able to swap it between the two cars.
Old 10 December 2003 | 05:13 PM
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Yup I'm using a Ipaq with Navman, can move it between my cars and take it on-foot even
Old 10 December 2003 | 05:43 PM
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I've just recently bought an ipaq 2210 with TomTom Navigator 2. Use an Emtac BlueTooth GPS receiver, no wires to worry about and it's great. Easy to set up. Only thing about the software is not being able to enter postcodes, you have to enter a city and streetname. Apart from that, I think it's great.

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Old 10 December 2003 | 05:47 PM
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Yes the classic has a speed pulse wire on the ecu loom.

very easy to get to.

Other wires, normal are ign, live, earth, reverse, side lights.

Old 11 December 2003 | 11:46 AM
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dlharris

Go to http://checkpoint.oabsoftware.nl/

You can download a tool that integrates with your contacts and will take you directly to the address stored for them on the Tom Tom map. Not quite what you wanted but it makes life sooo much easier.

You can also get a POI tool that lets you download the locations of Speed Cameras and you get it to give you a verbal warning as you approach and also tell you the road speed limit. It also supports SPECs and gives you your average speed as you go through.

Best of all it is all free - why did I spedn £400 on a Road Angel?? Damn.

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Old 11 December 2003 | 12:43 PM
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Just a note to anyone looking.

There is now a fix for the XDA2 MS BlueTooth stack that allows an XDA2 to be used with a BlueTooth GPS device.

Available (foc) HERE

Ultra portable solution, internet access (email/browse/msn/vpn etc) together with SatNav & mobile phone

Oh & a Brodit mount specifically designed for an XDA & an MY99 for when I'm in PTMW!

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