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Old 14 January 2004 | 04:41 PM
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Please excuse my ignorance.

My new STI is on its way down to the dealer for fitment of all its extra goodies.

The dealer has told me, excitedly, that it's an 04 model.

Is there any difference between that and the 03 model?
Old 14 January 2004 | 04:45 PM
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A square boot lock I think and unofficially, the ability to PPP it to 320P rather than 300Bhp
Old 14 January 2004 | 04:47 PM
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Now that's interesting. I saw a thread about alledged performance increases on new PPP.

I have ordered the PPP for dealer fit. What's it going to be? 305 or 320 BHP?

What do you think?
Old 14 January 2004 | 04:59 PM
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OCD - well if they fit the PPP before April/May time, its probably the current PPP version 310PS compared to the new 320PS, as alledgedly the new PPP is hitting the dealers about the same time as the WR1 ltd edition '04.

Or so I've been told...

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Old 14 January 2004 | 05:11 PM
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OCD I would defer the PPP for now, run the car in and by the time that's happened the alleged new PPP will be ready or at least be clearer.
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Thanks for the advice but I have already parted with my cash. Not the end of the world. More curious than anything. I don't see that the extra 10bhp will make a serious difference.
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You are right 10PS in its own right won't make a lot of difference - but what will make a lot of difference is how the power curve is effected by the new PPP configuration, it could make a huge difference to how the car will drive post PPP installation.

Best you wait.

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Old 14 January 2004 | 06:29 PM
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and possiblly effect the second hand vaule
Old 14 January 2004 | 07:24 PM
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unofficially, the ability to PPP it to 320P rather than 300Bhp
Tut tut, moderators spreading/perpetuating unconfirmed rumours...
Old 15 January 2004 | 10:16 AM
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GM - the 320PS PPP was listed in the press release for the WR1.
Old 15 January 2004 | 10:54 AM
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Old 15 January 2004 | 10:58 AM
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here here for that

Will he now go for the winner????
Old 15 January 2004 | 11:26 AM
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Thanks for the guidance guys, but as I said, I have parted with my cash so it's just a learing curve for me.

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On sale in the spring and limited to 500 units, the ‘WR1’ – as it will be called – will feature a power upgrade to around 320 PS plus a host of technical and visual upgrades.
Old 15 January 2004 | 03:11 PM
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GM - the 320PS PPP was listed in the press release for the WR1.
Yes, fitted to the WR1. It's not been confirmed for the other MY04 cars yet.

15-all I believe.
Old 15 January 2004 | 03:39 PM
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GM - ah but the WR1 letter the dealers received does explain further, it does indicate the 320PS PPP will be available for the MY'04 STi too.

So there!
Old 15 January 2004 | 04:49 PM
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Forehand drive down the line. Takes chalk. "IN".

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Old 15 January 2004 | 06:23 PM
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Lol! Thirty - fifteen Phil, surely?

At end of day, it doesn't matter what dealers get told in letters that are meant for their eyes only. There's still no official public announcement about the '04 PPP being 320, whether owners of '03 cars also get more power, whether current PPP owners can upgrade or not etc. etc., which is why threads like this one have sprung up.

[Edited by greasemonkey - 1/15/2004 5:29:09 PM]
Old 15 January 2004 | 06:29 PM
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GM - I see you will never admit defeat!

At end of day, it doesn't matter what dealers get told in letters that are meant for their eyes only. There's still no official public announcement about the '04 PPP being 320, which is why threads like this one have sprung up.
I see where you are coming from, and would agree that 320PS has not been confirmed publicly as such. But, the dealer letter was not for their eyes only, it was for information purposes so that if asked they can answer any customer queries. It is clear that both the WR1 and the STi MY'04 will share the same PPP package which is expected to produced circa 320PS as far as IM/SUK are concerned, and both cars will also have this fitted post registration as I understand it.

Deuce! perhaps?

[Edited by DrEvil - 1/15/2004 5:30:41 PM]
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Nah. Mr Monkey slipped on some grease while running for your cross-court volley (40-15) and was then fined a point for arguing with the Ref.

Game to the evil Doctor!

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Old 16 January 2004 | 08:23 AM
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I have heard a UK330 model will be anounced in April. Not that Subaru need to match what Mitzy are doing

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Old 16 January 2004 | 09:48 AM
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OCD,

As Dr said wait for the new PPP. Until you see the specs and the power delivery curve. If not you may end up with the only 04 STI with the 310 PPP. If that is the case come resale time you may not get a penny for the PPP addition. Leave the money with the dealer if they wont give some back and make sure you are no1 for the new PPP.

Just my thoughts

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