WR 1 Figures - ACTUALS
15 March 2004, 09:57 AM
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WR 1 Figures - ACTUALS
Following the enquiry in this thread....
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...=310042&page=1
An actual WR1 has been formally timed "somewhere in Warwickshire" as follows, and the figures (which may reflected in rounded form) have been released but not yet used AFAIK.
0-60 : 4.25 secs
0-100: 10.67 secs
Peak power: 320 PS @ 5800 rpm
Peak torque: 420 Nm @ 4000 rpm
1/4 mile: 12.8 secs
The colour in the photo I have is as near "silver-with-a-hint-of-blue" as makes no difference, and is NOT as awful as the indoor pictures suggest.
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http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...=310042&page=1
An actual WR1 has been formally timed "somewhere in Warwickshire" as follows, and the figures (which may reflected in rounded form) have been released but not yet used AFAIK.
0-60 : 4.25 secs
0-100: 10.67 secs
Peak power: 320 PS @ 5800 rpm
Peak torque: 420 Nm @ 4000 rpm
1/4 mile: 12.8 secs
The colour in the photo I have is as near "silver-with-a-hint-of-blue" as makes no difference, and is NOT as awful as the indoor pictures suggest.
Phil
15 March 2004, 10:02 AM
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Thanks Phil, they match the ones I saw a few weeks ago so I guess they will be the 'official' ones. They show a fantastic improvement over an STi with PPP. What i'm trying to get my head around is why the significant difference between these and a STI PPP with only a little bit more power and torque?
15 March 2004, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Neil Smalley
What i'm trying to get my head around is why the significant difference between these and a STI PPP with only a little bit more power and torque?
Figures look good started to get excited now!!!!!!!!
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15 March 2004, 10:18 AM
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The Spec C has DCCD and less weight, and is slower to 60 and 100. So although no doubt the DCCD does improve transmission losses. One would think it would make more difference on a lighter, more powerful car than it does on the WR1.
I've not seen in gear times, which of course is the next missing peice.
I've not seen in gear times, which of course is the next missing peice.
15 March 2004, 10:28 AM
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Theoretically the Spec C should be the quicker car, most have 300+bhp out of the box and weigh in at nearly 100kg lighter than the WR1, they also have twin scroll which eliminates lag when changing gears, plus a bigger and quicker turbo (rollerbearing). They have more torque also due to the engine design, but on a head to head it should be quicker, plus you have the benefits after 4th gear of having shorter ratio's 
It would be nice to see what the terminal speed was for the WR1 at 1/4 mile, Subaru Japan quote 13 flat@108mph for the Spec C, this will no doubt be beaten with times of 12.6 in some cases (no terminal speeds though and only from another source who told me). As stated though, the in gear times should be interesting though, and tbh i wouldnt have thought that 15bhp would have made that much difference so it has to come from the A-DCCD (Bob Rawles STI GL had a 10% loss on ProSports RR) but to get figures like that stated by ProDrive you would have to give the car some serious stick.
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It would be nice to see what the terminal speed was for the WR1 at 1/4 mile, Subaru Japan quote 13 flat@108mph for the Spec C, this will no doubt be beaten with times of 12.6 in some cases (no terminal speeds though and only from another source who told me). As stated though, the in gear times should be interesting though, and tbh i wouldnt have thought that 15bhp would have made that much difference so it has to come from the A-DCCD (Bob Rawles STI GL had a 10% loss on ProSports RR) but to get figures like that stated by ProDrive you would have to give the car some serious stick.
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15 March 2004, 11:42 AM
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Looks like another manufactuer claim which won't be equalled by the buyer's of these cars.
I remember when the PPP came out for the STi and quoted 4.66secs to 60 IIRC and none of the owners could get near it lol!
Why don't they just totally take the pi$$ and say it'll do 0-60 in 3.2 secs and 0-100 in 7secs.
Remember the P1? 'The ultimate incarnation of the impreza' yeah right.
I remember when the PPP came out for the STi and quoted 4.66secs to 60 IIRC and none of the owners could get near it lol!
Why don't they just totally take the pi$$ and say it'll do 0-60 in 3.2 secs and 0-100 in 7secs.
Remember the P1? 'The ultimate incarnation of the impreza' yeah right.
15 March 2004, 11:55 AM
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when we tested our Spec C Limited at Millbrook with Evo Magazine we consistantly got a 0-60 time of about 4.27 and 0-100 in 11.1 (last summer & with a higher rpm rev limit than UK). Evo test the cars 2 up and with a full tank using Racelogic GPS gear, Mike Wood told me these times were highly unlikely from just an exhaust change and remap so he must be over the moon with WR1 results
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The Limited according to the paperwork from the factory weighs 1,370 kg. I'm sure it has a touch more power than the WR1 I'll have to check the COC on my 'Petter Solberg Edition' to get an idea of the weight of the WR1 
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I'll have to check the COC on my 'Petter Solberg Edition' to get an idea of the weight of the WR1 Iain
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15 March 2004, 12:22 PM
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Tony, the weight of the normal Spec C is 1,350kg with the weight all being saved over the front
The new Subaru COC documents has the Petter Solberg/WR1 down as the same weight as before. However they only list the:
Mass of vehicle with bodywork in running order 1,545kg
The new Subaru COC documents has the Petter Solberg/WR1 down as the same weight as before. However they only list the:
Mass of vehicle with bodywork in running order 1,545kg
15 March 2004, 12:35 PM
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And to think I was very nearly convinced that these figures were genuine and I was about to rush out and sell my JDM STi 9 GL
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PMSL. Very true.
Any comments Mike?
Nathan..
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Mike Wood told me these times were highly unlikely from just an exhaust change and remap so he must be over the moon with WR1 results
Any comments Mike?
Nathan..
15 March 2004, 02:46 PM
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I am not in a position to comment as these figures are at the moment confidential and should not have been posted in a public forum.
When the details are released officially I will be happy to discuss them
Mike
When the details are released officially I will be happy to discuss them
Mike
15 March 2004, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeWood
I am not in a position to comment as these figures are at the moment confidential and should not have been posted in a public forum.
When the details are released officially I will be happy to discuss them
Mike
When the details are released officially I will be happy to discuss them
Mike
15 March 2004, 03:01 PM
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or mike like myself through a haze of tears ( laughing at this thread ) did NOT read them correctly in the first place????
hawk
ps and the tears are also partly down to sheer disbelief that such a small increase in power could make such a HUGE difference in times over the sti7/8 ppp'd times!!!!!!
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ps and the tears are also partly down to sheer disbelief that such a small increase in power could make such a HUGE difference in times over the sti7/8 ppp'd times!!!!!!
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