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Old 16 April 2004 | 09:42 AM
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.....No good having a car with ability if the driver doesn't have some. How do i know whether i'm getting the most out of my Scoob?....and i'm not talking of being a lunatic on the highway.
I can spend thousands of pounds on mods and yet forget probably the most important thing driving ability.....does it come with time and practice or are you just born with it?
Any little secret tips to share?

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Old 16 April 2004 | 09:49 AM
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Haven't you heard, Scoob drivers are born excellent drivers. Especially in the wet twisties
Old 16 April 2004 | 09:51 AM
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How do i know whether i'm getting the most out of my Scoob?
You should feel a distinct involuntary tightening around the corners of the oral opening. This might have the effect of pulling back the lips to expose the dentition. The effect will feel subjectively similar to having a really tight pair of ears on.
Old 16 April 2004 | 09:54 AM
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...or go on a trackday and use an instructor to find the limits and what it feels like on the limit..
Old 16 April 2004 | 09:56 AM
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On a more serious note - sod spending thousands mods and spend a few hundred on some advanced driver training. You'll get a lot more out of it, understand your car better and appreciate what it can do and then you will be able to answer your original question yourself!

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Old 16 April 2004 | 10:03 AM
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Chris L that's what i was thinking. Some advanced driver training would be well spent on me
Old 16 April 2004 | 10:23 AM
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i'd recommend advanced driver training - you'd be surprised how much safe progress you can make when you know exactly what you're doing!

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Old 16 April 2004 | 10:38 AM
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I am glad you asked this question. Many probably don't dare. Can make it slide around corners in a controlled fashion?

Tha is how I would rate a good scoobie driver. The car was made for that. An advanced driver course as someone recommended is the ideal way to learn.
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Advanced driving tuition is good. Track driving is fun, but I'm still unconvinced on how useful it it in the real world..the difference between smooth, grippy, cambered racetrack corners and diesel covered, potholed, crested exit roundabouts is pretty vast. You are a good driver if you are smooth, if you don't have to emergency brake because you didn't see/anticipate a hazard and if you can make it all seem soo easy.
I also reckon car drivers should be forced to ride a 12BHP bike for 10k miles in an urban enviornment....
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Old 16 April 2004 | 11:52 AM
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...So who are the best people to go to for advanced driver training and is it expensive?
Anyone actually been on a course?

I'm becoming increasingly aware that my ever increasingly modified Scoob is a lethal weapon and i need to become a smooth, more aware driver and learn some better techniques.

By the way, i drive over 60,000 miles a year in a white transit....enough said i think
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Was sent on advanced driver training by my employer after my firsr co. car gave up the ghost after only 3 months ;-)
Me and my mate enjoyed it o much that we paid for 2 additional days ourselves.

Thinking of getting another, about £300ish for top notch ex-pold pursuit driver.
Can't put my hand on his details at the mo.

VFM - top

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Just ask me nicely

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Have a look at these guys : Driver Awareness Ltd - email them or speak to Adrian Shurmer. He and a colleague setup the company a few years back. Both are ex-traffic cops with 30 years + experience. they have some very high profile clients (currently advising at least 4 premiership footbal clubs) - certainly worth a look.

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Old 16 April 2004 | 12:12 PM
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not very pc but adavnced training is a bit boring.

an idiot in a fast car will have more fun than an expert in a slow car.

when i first got a bike i loved it....after 3 years and hundreads of trackdays i sold it as doing 150mph very well was boring
Old 16 April 2004 | 12:15 PM
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smufy, get some proper instruction. Either on track to work out apexes, braking points, etc. or something like a skid pan to get used to car control.

Any monkey can get a car sideways on a big wide track or airfield

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Old 16 April 2004 | 12:22 PM
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a good driver; degree of common sense/ vg eyesight/ spacial awarness/ judgement/ hand-eye co-ordination; then loads of practice. IMHO
Old 16 April 2004 | 03:22 PM
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Iv heard countless motoring journalists say: if you cant drive a scooby fast then you just dont know how to drive fast.
So they must be a piece of p*ss to drive. LOL.
Old 16 April 2004 | 03:35 PM
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any recommendations for track day or professional tuition that will supply their own imprezas? I'm not knackering my own just yet
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I think castle combe have their own WRX`s.
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attend a rally school, that covers a number of surfaces. Then you'll get to understand the in's & out's of the beast.

On public roads, never take the risk

On open public roads, i.e. lanes with good forward visibility & no post's, etc, drive within your limits, forget what the car can do, it's all down to nerve. The car is well capable of being pushed, but if you loose your nerve your heading for a problem.

I learn't a lot from my rally school session, but always think first.

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Old 16 April 2004 | 07:54 PM
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the sidc are currently organising a driver training day
http://forums.sidc.co.uk/messageview...threadid=15056

ive done this twice and learnt alot
there a few videos to show you what its like
Old 16 April 2004 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
not very pc but adavnced training is a bit boring.

an idiot in a fast car will have more fun than an expert in a slow car.

when i first got a bike i loved it....after 3 years and hundreads of trackdays i sold it as doing 150mph very well was boring

Not sure that's a particularly good attitude Tiggs. Try asking my mate who was hit head on by a biker at the weekend. I bet the biker thought he was a an expert until he was going to fast for the bend and drifted on to the other side of the road straight in front of my mate.
The 100mph plus impact (according to the accident investigators) left the biker in TWO pieces, and my mate and his wife in Hospital with broken ribs and bruising. Thats not to mention the mental trauma that they will probably suffer for the rest of their lives after seeing such a horrific site spread all over the bonnet and embedded through their windscreen.

Paul

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