davegtt

looking at buying a motor, has 1 of these on it, what is it and how much do they cost?

thanks

subaru-impreza.org

http://www.dawesdevices.com/

hope that help

Gareth
from http://www.subaru-impreza.org

davegtt

hmm, not sure whats going on spec just says dawes devices, thought it might have been a security thing or something but on that web site ther are a few things ???

Paulo P

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A posh bleed valve

davegtt

lmao. well that explains the power claims on the car then. car claiming 280-300BHP with this spec, what do you think?

Full de-cat & prodrive B/B,
K&N panel filter,
dawes device,
graham goode boost gauge and autometer a/f ratio,
Knocklink,
intercooler waterspray,
wax wizard treatment
280-300Hp

Is his possible? if so what boost would it have to run and would it be reliable???

dont know nowt about tuning scoobys so just wanna check its all in order

ozzy

What MY is the car?

davegtt

1997, had a short engine rebuild.... something about recalled for fixing the piston slap

what boost do these cars run as std too?

Paulo P

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Ehh

With that spec I'd have guessed at much nearer 260 bhp. Have they got a graph from a dyno?

Paul

ozzy

97 UK or japanese WRX or STI?

Stefan

Paulo P

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re-build or new short block? If it's a re-build then I wouldn't walk away I'd run like **** If it's been re-bored then I wouldn't touch it.

Should be running about .9 bar peak at a guess. Depends on what turbo is fitted. Figures are optimistic

davegtt

dont think they'd have a graph if there saying 280-300 they'd quote a straight figure surely. I'll ask about the wax wizard treatment all I can think it might be is some sort of body work protection thing??? no idea, didnt know if it might have been mechanical mod to the car

as said I know nowt about modding scoobs.

ozzy

I haven't heard of Wx Wizard doing any protection. He's famous for selling waxing kits. It might make the car look shiney and protect it from the weather, but it should be confused with products design to protect from stuff like stone chips.

Stefan

davegtt

OK bit more info now.

thanks for all the help btw guys most helpful.

"At the last dyno run at Well Lane, it clocked around 280Hp, and since then the resonator has been removed, the de-cat centre added, the intercooler position and w/spray improved, and as such 300Bhp is a realistic figure"

think its running 19-20psi std turbo. is this safe? what size turbo do the scoobs run? I know my R5 GTT runs 20psi safely but again know nowt about scoobs

Paulo P

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Magic tree's good for another 10 bhp! LOL. I do not know where the wax wizard treatment fits in with the engine mods.

I'd be careful. What do you know about the engine re-build? Piston slap was certainly common on MY98s.

davegtt

64k miles too people, how long can I expect this engine to get me around for. the girlfriends scared of 90k miles on a std set up so dont know what she'll make of 300hp on a 64k miles engine....

well I dont knwo what to make of it either.

thanks again

Paulo P

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I didn't think they could run 19-20 psi with standard internals

davegtt

noooo, sorry getting confusing now, I have a list of mods but didnt know if this wizard thing was a body work thing or some scoob lingo for a mod thats why I mentioned it

I know nowt about the rebuild apart from it was done in 2001 under warrenty to fix the piston slap...

ozzy

A lot of Scoobies are bought (and sold) based on BHP claims. Big figures help sell cars

Personally, I'd look at exactly what you're getting and base any purchase on that. Is it a UK car? I'd want to know exactly happened on the rebuild and who did it.

As Paul says, be very careful and get specific answers.

Stefan

P.S. If it was done under warranty, then IM (Subaru UK) would confirm this for you.

davegtt

yes UK car.

here is the full spec

1997 UK reddish blue 4dr turbo
64k miles,
CAT1 alarm/imm,
Tracker,
fsh & loads of bills/receipts - recent major service,
Taxed and Tested (all MOT's),
updated spoiler (genuine),
2000 spec gold wheels,
short engine replaced Jan '01 by previous owner under warranty (piston slap)and new clutch at same time,
Full de-cat & prodrive B/B,
K&N panel filter,
dawes device,
STI struts and springs & prodrive geometry settings, A pillar pod with graham goode boost gauge and autometer a/f ratio,
Knocklink,
slightly colour coded interior & momo gear ****, kenwood single cd player,
Goodridge Hoses, Ferrodo DS2500 pads, MRT Supprt Bracket, AP5.1 fluid,
intercooler waterspray,
clear side repeaters & indicators,
Samco hoses,
Magnecor Leads,
Recent tyres + battery,
All old parts i.e. exhaust, spoiler etc.
wax wizard treatment
280-300Hp
well maintained car in very good condition

£7700 ono

Paulo P

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You need to find out exactly what was done in the re-build.

The wax wizard is a polish thingy

Well lane are known to give generous figures (I'm gonna get flamed for that)

ozzy

Can you run 19-20psi on a MY97 UK without hitting fuel cut? Sorry, but I don't know what PSI fuel cut is set to on a 97 ECU.

I'd ask if it has a fuel cut defender (FCD) fitted.

Stefan

davegtt

lmao. well lane gave shy figures on my reno 5. FWD different rollers and all that too though

ozzy

I'd concentrate on the mods and boost levels. You can see if the std car and turbo can cope with running lots of boost. It's worth asking what fuel it's been run on (and if any booster is used) to cope with the boost levels.

Stefan

davegtt

aparently its had the resonator in the wing removed???? this raises the boost by 1-2psi ....

this is the ad, the cars advertised on here. If Lee's reading this Im not questioning your integritty or claims mate Im just trying to get a feel what Id be getting into if I bought th car.

thanks

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=321399

Paulo P

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looks more like sonic blue to me

ozzy

The resonator helps air-flow and can increase the power (just like any engine breathing has the potential to do). AFAIK, it won't raise the boost though.

The car looks and sounds genuine, but I would just check that the level of boost is safe on that model.

The downside I've read about the resonator is it can attract water and potentially damage the MAF. I suppose it could make the car run lean given the better air flow. I'm not really experienced enough to say just what negative effects it would have.

At least the car has a Knocklink and AFR gauge to show how it's behaving - that's a good sign at least.

Stefan

davegtt

definately, personally with this dawes device thingy Id like to reduce the amount of boost its running anyhow, the owner tells me its running ever so slightly lean.

changing the boost does the ECU automatically change the fueling for you or does it have to be done at a rolling road?

how much do you get charged somewhere like well lane for a session on the rollers for a scoob, had the 5 done before but its rather more simpler with a carbed engine

thanks guys

dave

Paulo P

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If it's been running lean and had a re-build for piston slap and been running that boost then I'd say it's a timebomb It looks sweet but I wouldn't feel comfortable driving it.