Boyakasha

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Wow Just read EVO last night and it was great to see an unbiased opinion on the performance packages available for the new age scoobs. That Roger Clark Motorsport conversion was just insane. £15k is not that bad when you think about what you are getting 437bhp/390lb ft and a bullet proof engine.

Don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't read the article so I won't comment on who came out best against the PPP at a similar price.



Marc

Danny B

Anyone who spends £15k on engine mods has more money then sense IMHO.
Fifteen grand

gadget daz

Luckily you don't need more money than sense to buy the actual car used by rcms, it's mine and its up for sale..................**** me I diddn't know the mag was out yet!!!!!

<loud slam of office door as gadget daz runs to newsagents>

MadMark

Top article!

Boyakasha

iTrader: (2)

Didn't realise it was up for sale

<grabs EVO mag and desperatley searches for RCM's phone number>

gadget daz

hmmmm, with more gadgets than u can wave a stick at

Trouser @TSL

It is an awesome car.. whomever buys it gets an unbelievable bit of kit. It launches like nothing else. What next Daz?? Does it come with a free Olly to get times like that

I thought it was a great article too!

gadget daz

Nice one Paul, but if u check out olly's quarter mile time, he can't touch me

car will and has done 11's

.................he says he has being conservative 'cause it wasn't his car

Edcase

Note to self, must finally get round to subscribing to Evo

The Fixer

Not taking anything away from Daz's car as its superb but £15K is ridiculous for an engine at that spec. IMHO a better spec (and just as reliable) engine is feasable for a lot less money.

CraigH

Possibly but you can't argue with the results and they seem to be one of the better documented tuners regarding reliability.

gadget daz

Conrad
better spec for less money??

what, if u fitted it yourself

I use RCMS cause i think they're the best m8, worth every penny

..........you pays your money, u take your chanc...................as they say

Old_Fart

Me mate Dave fitted a BOV and a bleedvalve and was getting low 10's on the strip innit?
Rgds
Cman

Boyakasha

iTrader: (2)

I would say that £15k for that type of performance and reliability is fantastic. In the real world of tuning and not the usual stick on an exhaust lark you need to spend money or you'll just end up with a lump of metal for an engine when it all goes bang. This is an every day so has to be reliable.

gadget daz

I like it being compared to a 575 maranello, **** me!!! (obviousley i would prefer the 575)

Edcase

15k is almost half way to a new T25 though....

gadget daz

i don't think the type 25 comes anywhere near this, even with 2 people sat in the back watching a film on the 3 tv screens

dc911

Well if you would like to try it against a type 25 just let me know ;-)
Think it would be closer than you think, especially looking at the in gear times!!!
Congrats at the times
Darren

David_Wallis

I'm with conrad...

15k buys a lot more than 437bhp/390lb including engine dyno time, and installation.

but as they say, you pay your money and you take your choice..

David

gadget daz

Agreed to all

i just think like most people that rcms are one of if not the best

matt is well known and respected engine builder by many people in trade

Edcase

Yes but remember with the type 25 you are getting all the lovely extras (well, a car to go around the engine to start with ) like DCCD-A, adjustable suspension, quickrack etc.

Also bear in mind the car is 'conservatively' tuned for 'everyday' use, and power can be upped significantly from the already startling figures.

I think you need to look at the figures again to define 'anywhere close'

I think what you've done to the car is fantastic, but 15k for the engine work is

CraigH

Not at RCM it doesn't. Not everyones as clever or innovative as you are in your approach David (not even the A team could make some of the things you do ) so they go to someone who does it all for them, and you can't argue with the results, expensive or not.

Trouser @TSL

Sounds good value to me!!! for that level of engineering and knowledge. I can't really see how to achive that level of performance reliably.. and with undoubted longievity without making Mr Visa suitably wince

David_Wallis

Craig,

I would want more, without getting my hands dirty..

Watch our for a car to appear soon that the owner has done just that for significantly less..

I save money on little bits, but I paid for my engine to be built.. I was going to build it, but decided against it..

15k pays for a lot of parts and a lot of labour IMHO.. maybe its a tainted northern attitude that despises southern pricing? (havent got a clue where rcms!) but im sure they are very good for the money.

David
David

dc911

Roger Clarke is only Leicester so not too far south from you

David_Wallis

LOL..

Interesting to know! next time I need some bits in a hurry I will bear them in mind!

David

Chris L

Go and speak to a few of the Evo and Skyline boys - they are just getting started at that money I know of at least two Skylines that have had in excess of 70 grand spent on them (silly money I know, but it just goes to show what some people will do). On that basis, I think the RCM upgrade offers VFM

They also spoke very well of TSL's 333 upgrade too.

Chris

David_Wallis

chris.. how much power do they get?

this is around £34 per bhp..

could be considered cheap depending on how you look at it..


or assuming you start with say 220 bhp..

£69 per every extra 1bhp..

Expensive, hobby.

David

Edcase

Andy from Sumo has spent WELL over 70k on his, but then he is pushing 1000BHP

gadget daz

but what u have to remember is, an sti is only roughly 27k to start with

how much is a skyline? then chuck 70k at it
mine started at 265bhp...............and i love impreza's not skylines

and remember.................this car at 437bhp................is still a 2 litre, not 2.2, not 2.5 , only a mere 2 litre