Driver is forced to hand car keys to burglars
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Lying Labour need to make it the same sort of crime that walking into a jewellers/bank/building society, tooled up, and asking for £25,000 with menaces already is
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If they would take car crime SERIOUSLY, they could cut it by a LOT, but they aren't interested, because they think the motorist is just a nuisance cash cow b@stard who pollutes the earth.
God, I HATE those fekkers. Does it show?
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I have to pity the mentality of the thieves... Say they broke into my house, threatened me for the keys which I would duly hand over...
I would then call the police the minute they were in the car and the trackstar people too. Then theres a good chance they'll get tracked, chased and either get nicked or crash into a wall etc...
Then after they'd got out of prison / while they were painting park benches, I would pay some nice men from down the pub a few monkeys to ensure that it hurt forever more when using their limbs... I honestly would - no SN bravado there...
So all in all a whole lot of bother for the sake of 20mins in my scoob... Stoopid chav scumbags...
Its a scary world...
I would then call the police the minute they were in the car and the trackstar people too. Then theres a good chance they'll get tracked, chased and either get nicked or crash into a wall etc...
Then after they'd got out of prison / while they were painting park benches, I would pay some nice men from down the pub a few monkeys to ensure that it hurt forever more when using their limbs... I honestly would - no SN bravado there...
So all in all a whole lot of bother for the sake of 20mins in my scoob... Stoopid chav scumbags...
Its a scary world...
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Damn right mate!! Blackjax would go someway to stoping this kind of thief getting away with the car, but the point is we shouldn't have to go to these lengths: the prospective punishment should disuade scumbags from trying in the first place.The government should be doing much more to combat car crime.
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Damn right mate!! Blackjax would go someway to stoping this kind of thief getting away with the car, but the point is we shouldn't have to go to these lengths: the prospective punishment should disuade scumbags from trying in the first place.The government should be doing much more to combat car crime.
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And yet another incident involving scum of the earth.
Well i was going to rant on about how hard i would be in the same situation or say how low these scumbags are but im not going to bother.
Instead im going to mention the post so far that stood out to me and made me change my mind in my reply.
Alcazar's post is the only one that hits on the real problem and if things were done by the goverment like he has said, i think it would actually deter these idiots from there theiving ways as the time spent in jail will not be worth it.
With punishments no more than a slap on the wrist in some cases its no wonder people do this for a living. The benefits of getting away and selling the car on are worth the risk for minimal punishment.
So rather than everyone shouting the odds at the scumbags that are not going to be reading these forums so it wont make any difference why dont we do some shouting at the goverment for a change as there the ones that dictate to us the rules and laws of the lands...
We could actually make a point to the goverment when voting time comes or maybe we could all sign a petition signed by all car forums in the uk requesting tougher laws on car crime, burglaries and any acts of aggression shown towards another in his/her home or workplace.
They may listen you never know, but i know the car thieves in the UK wont be doing anything to change there ways anytime soon...
Well i was going to rant on about how hard i would be in the same situation or say how low these scumbags are but im not going to bother.
Instead im going to mention the post so far that stood out to me and made me change my mind in my reply.
Alcazar's post is the only one that hits on the real problem and if things were done by the goverment like he has said, i think it would actually deter these idiots from there theiving ways as the time spent in jail will not be worth it.
With punishments no more than a slap on the wrist in some cases its no wonder people do this for a living. The benefits of getting away and selling the car on are worth the risk for minimal punishment.
So rather than everyone shouting the odds at the scumbags that are not going to be reading these forums so it wont make any difference why dont we do some shouting at the goverment for a change as there the ones that dictate to us the rules and laws of the lands...
We could actually make a point to the goverment when voting time comes or maybe we could all sign a petition signed by all car forums in the uk requesting tougher laws on car crime, burglaries and any acts of aggression shown towards another in his/her home or workplace.
They may listen you never know, but i know the car thieves in the UK wont be doing anything to change there ways anytime soon...
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Just got off the blower with the local police station and to cut a long story short his response was to hand the keys over in any circumstance.
However if i felt i could deal with them then confront them but ultimately my own security should come first.
I then asked about laws on someone breaking into my house and stealing my car threatening and if they did get caught his response was that if it was their first crime then they would proabably get let off with a conditional discharge.
He said that all they can do is enforce the laws they are given so if its not enough made by the goverment in the first place then this kind of thing will carry on until the goverment change there laws and politics on crime!!
So there you have it, the message we are sending out to these types of people is car crime and burglary is worth the risk like i already mentioned so we may as well all leave the keys at the front doors in future...
Don't think i will be voting labour unless they sort this out. Are there any other parties like conservative/liberal that have tough plans on dealing with sentences served out by these offences in the future other than treating car crime and burglaries like a joke?
However if i felt i could deal with them then confront them but ultimately my own security should come first.
I then asked about laws on someone breaking into my house and stealing my car threatening and if they did get caught his response was that if it was their first crime then they would proabably get let off with a conditional discharge.
He said that all they can do is enforce the laws they are given so if its not enough made by the goverment in the first place then this kind of thing will carry on until the goverment change there laws and politics on crime!!
So there you have it, the message we are sending out to these types of people is car crime and burglary is worth the risk like i already mentioned so we may as well all leave the keys at the front doors in future...
Don't think i will be voting labour unless they sort this out. Are there any other parties like conservative/liberal that have tough plans on dealing with sentences served out by these offences in the future other than treating car crime and burglaries like a joke?
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Lying Labour need to make it the same sort of crime that walking into a jewellers/bank/building society, tooled up, and asking for £25,000 with menaces already is![Mad](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/mad.gif)
If they would take car crime SERIOUSLY, they could cut it by a LOT, but they aren't interested, because they think the motorist is just a nuisance cash cow b@stard who pollutes the earth.
God, I HATE those fekkers. Does it show?
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Lying Labour need to make it the same sort of crime that walking into a jewellers/bank/building society, tooled up, and asking for £25,000 with menaces already is
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If they would take car crime SERIOUSLY, they could cut it by a LOT, but they aren't interested, because they think the motorist is just a nuisance cash cow b@stard who pollutes the earth.
God, I HATE those fekkers. Does it show?
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As for taking it seriously, the 5 (yes just five) ministerial priorities for the police to concentrate on are Class A drugs, Burglary, Vehicle Crime, Violent Crimes and Public Reassurance.....
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Originally Posted by DJ WATTS
maybe we could all sign a petition signed by all car forums in the uk requesting tougher laws on car crime, burglaries and any acts of aggression shown towards another in his/her home or workplace.
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Originally Posted by DJ WATTS
I then asked about laws on someone breaking into my house and stealing my car threatening and if they did get caught his response was that if it was their first crime then they would proabably get let off with a conditional discharge.
He said that all they can do is enforce the laws they are given so if its not enough made by the goverment in the first place then this kind of thing will carry on until the goverment change there laws and politics on crime!!
He said that all they can do is enforce the laws they are given so if its not enough made by the goverment in the first place then this kind of thing will carry on until the goverment change there laws and politics on crime!!
The police & local authorities have to decide how to allocate resources. They prefer to put their efforts into the scamera partnerships to fleece the motorists & give themselves an easy self-financing life. In my area (Avon & Somerset), I can't remember when I last saw a traffic patrol car. This means that the drunk, uninsured, dangerous drivers get off scott-free - as long they drive slowly past a speed trap.
It may help to vote out Labour, but why not put £20 to good use & support the Association of British Drivers! These guys are trying to do exactly what we all want.
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That's the 4th Impreza in the area in the last fortnight. Seems that Cov and Warks Scoobs are being heavily targetted at the moment. I know this particular car well, as I pass him daily on my way home from work. Hope he's not too traumatised by it all.
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Hanging is too good for the scum that perpertrate this kind of crime.
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As well as join the ABD write to your MP and get all your mates to as well. Ask him/her what they will be doing about low-life scum like this and say that you will not be voting for them if they do not come up with something that deters the crime and punishes the criminal rather than the victim. They do listen to peoples views .....
If they come back without answering then maybe the local press would be interested in printing their replies and going to ask them questions ...?? Embarrass the bu%%ers until they do give the answer you want.
Seriously considering doing the same to mine about the Tories support for ID cards!
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If they come back without answering then maybe the local press would be interested in printing their replies and going to ask them questions ...?? Embarrass the bu%%ers until they do give the answer you want.
Seriously considering doing the same to mine about the Tories support for ID cards!
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Pretty sure I read somewhere about an alarm system that can remotely immobilise the car AND lock the doors...
Not sure about the false imprisonment angle.
Come to think of it, if a burgler steals your keys off you in the house, surely that's a mugging?
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Not sure about the false imprisonment angle.
Come to think of it, if a burgler steals your keys off you in the house, surely that's a mugging?
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The question i keep asking myself is Would i pull the trigger and shoot the low life pieces of ****e ?
Faced with a situation at or in my home then i think my answer would be be pull it!
Anyone else had thoughts like this given the means to do it what ya reckon ?
Faced with a situation at or in my home then i think my answer would be be pull it!
Anyone else had thoughts like this given the means to do it what ya reckon ?
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Surely the point is that the more difficult the alarm the more likely that the car thieves will take you with the keys to drive the car some where that they can disarm it or load it in to a container etc and then get rid of you. the only answer is for the Police to actually catch them and then the judges giving a long term in prision but Labour is trying to keep people out or give them early release so not much chance and the Police cant be bothered clear up rates for car crime we know about is below 20% and the Police are proud of this?
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Given the means then it would certainly be 50/50 to pulling, although, I would be more inclined to a FUBAR shot rather than killing shot, like through the knee or something. You know the sort of injury that makes fleeing the scene of a crime quite difficult so that you can be FUBAR'd again.
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