Clive the Brave

Hi there Scooby peeps,

been a while since I've been here, not really had the time, been playing in the car :>)

Anyway, I'm looking at getting a couple of harnesses fitted to my WR1 and was after some advice.

No one goes in the back seats, for me it's a 2 seater car so bolting the harnesses in is not an issue.

I want quality, FIA approved.

Any tips ?

SirFozzalot

Speak to Gangsta....he has some in his WR1.

(not sure about the FIA approval though)

Clive the Brave

Ok, I'll see if I can get hold of him.
cheers

Phil

Gangsta's bolt to the frame of the seat and not the rear so the back seats are still usable

Not sure about FIA Standards in this respect

image doctor

Heres a thought.

You roll your car and the roof deforms - and because you have a full harness, you stay perfectally in place......not good at all!

With a standard seat belt in place, you would have some movement.

p1doc

your insurance would not lkie it at all i presume,i thought for regs the harnesses had to bolt to chassis ie where the seats are.
if they only bolt to frame of seat i would presume they are not as safe
martin

Clive the Brave

I would think it's a lot safer, or we would see the seat belt on all racing cars.
Better not to be thrown around in the car, atleast thats my feeling. Mind you I don't plan on rolling anything.


cheers Phil, sounds like Gangster has more cosmetic harnesses.

I'll be asking my insurance company as well.

image doctor

Racing cars have a roll cage to keep the car and driver in the general shape they were supposed to be.

If you have a harness, fit a cage.

Jiggerypokery

... and then you'll need to wear a helmet.

Also remember you will have difficulty leaning forward in your seat at junctions to look left + right.

image doctor

Correct!

Clive the Brave

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I guess it's going ot be one of them subjects that goes around in circles, one thing I don't want to do is fit a cage, but I do want the harness feel to stop me moving around in the seat.

Insrance company, Direct Line are ok with it as well, it's legal and they see as a mod but does not add anything to the premium, they just need to be notified in-case the car needs replacing.

image doctor

I think there is an alternative.....

Its a fairly cheap device that locks the seatbelt....i got an email from goldtrack about it.

However they dont look as bling as a nice harness do they

Gangsta Smurf

to clear some stuff up .... Clive you have PM.

My harnesses are full FIA approved and are the best that money can buy - they are exactly what are used in the rally cars and are the absolute nadgers.

Regarding rolling the car. To do that on a track you obviousely are not in control of the car and don't deserve to be on the track - therefore it wouldn't be an issue.

Thirdly when you use harnesses you appreciate how ****e seatbelts actually are - so I would recommend them completely on the safety fact alone.

Anybody who knows me will tell you that whatever I put on my car is nothing but the best ... for something like seatbelts and other safety devices to fit cosmetic stuff would be utter madness!!!!!!

Iain M

Having been a passenger in Clives car, I think harnesses are a good idea

image doctor

This has been discussed many times by people who go to the ring and do track days.

I apprecaite what you are saying about if you crash you should not be there in the first place.....BUT on 2 seperate trackdays at Donington (one was an SIDC day) cars rolled............it does happen!

tuscan57

yeah seen the rolling of scoobies TOO often.... grave trap sideways normally does it without fail......

p1doc

are your harnesses connecting to chassis or just to seat frame? and did it affect general day to day useability of the car?
martin

urban

iTrader: (1)

Do you use the harness for every day normal use?

Remember the earlier comment.
Do you wear subaru rally clothing then too just to look the part

Clive the Brave

wow, I go to feed my face for a bit and get back to find you lot have been busy at it, cheers. Looks like Harnesses are in order.

Gangster, I'll check my PM and get back to you, cheers mate, chat to you in a bit. Nothing but the best for your baby, same here, hope u did not get the impression I was yanking your chain about your harnesses, I really don't know anything about them, hence the thred. I'll PM you soon.

Iain :>) what more can I say, see you soon, hry have you run that car in get or is she still doing 4000rpm, you do know it's only for the first 1000miles.....LMFAO


Image Doc, I'm going to take your advice and make sure I have a cage in the car,,,,,,,,,,,,, a bird cage as I always seem to pick the crazy *itches....lol

Gangsta Smurf

Chassis mate ... no point otherwise. To be honest I prefer wearing the harness now. You don't move about at all and get a much better feeling for the car. Yeh it's overkill for the road but so are most mods ... on track is where they make the difference though.

I've found that it when reversing you basically need to loosen them because you you can't move around. But they are all on quick release and quick ratchets so can be adjusted very very very quickely if you need to move.

PMSL at Urban ... I am petter solberg - didn't you know!

Iain M

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Iain :>) what more can I say, see you soon, hry have you run that car in get or is she still doing 4000rpm, you do know it's only for the first 1000miles.....LMFAO

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They way I drive my car, you don't even need seat belts :>>>>>))))

It gets above 4000 occasionally, that's when it's allowed out of the garage lol

I think the right foot remembers the P1 and doesn't want to push the pedal to hard

simo

[QUOTE=Gangsta Smurf]

Regarding rolling the car. To do that on a track you obviousely are not in control of the car and don't deserve to be on the track - therefore it wouldn't be an issue.[\QUOTE]

No one goes out with the intention of rolling their car but like it has been said, it happens. Gravel traps flip cars all to easily and if you hit someone else, they hit you, bang, you could be over.

S

Clive the Brave

[QUOTE=Iain M]
Thats understandable......... just so everyone know...............

IAIN is a P1 KILLER, there's one less because of his itchy right foot, just make sure you don't kill the WR1, ok.

Iain M

Well the tree helped

Just doing my bit to make the P1s a bit rarer.

Oh I'm doing my best to make sure the WR1 stays on the road. Probably being a bit too carfeful and not enjoying the car enough. I'll have to drive it a lot more before I get to the harness stage

Clive the Brave

May be when the weather brightens up, you've been skiing and the golfing in the sunshine is over we should get ourselve to a track day.
No need to set any track records but gives the WR1 an oppertunity to stretch her legs.......... with no trees about either :>)

Iain M

That sounds like a good plan, to blow the cobwebs out of the car. No trees is a good idea. Trees hurt. Perhaps a local airfield would be an option, hmmmm

p1doc

there is a good step by step instruction on ravensblade-impreza.com
that reminds me do you wr1 drivers have driving light covers?
martin

Iain M

No covers on mine and Clives. I would like some clear ones to fit directly over the lamp lenses. Clive had a stone redesign one of his.

Clive the Brave

Just what I was thinking, airfield........... then there's plenty of run off space.... no gravel traps (won't roll the car) and she WILL come home with out any damage..

Clive the Brave

the first week a bloody stone did one of my driving lights............. since then it's been only 2 tyres, nail in one and a screw in another.

I've not seen any light covers, would be intrested if anyone can find any, the lights are about £130ish each I think.