New Scooby Owner a little dissapointed
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New Scooby Owner a little dissapointed
Is it me , or should things be just a little better on a 20k Car
Just bought my first scoob 05 wrx due its first service this weekend.
There are some things about it that already niggle me .
The lag until the car gets up to 3k
the fact that the seats are built for larger people, offering very little support for a car that generates so much grip in the corners.
Paint quality, dont know if mine is a bad one , but the lacquer appears so soft that even washing it causes scratches
Why couldnt they have fitted a steering column that moves in and out as well??
Apart from that its marvellous , and i cant wait to get past this wait for 1000 before going over 4k
Just bought my first scoob 05 wrx due its first service this weekend.
There are some things about it that already niggle me .
The lag until the car gets up to 3k
the fact that the seats are built for larger people, offering very little support for a car that generates so much grip in the corners.
Paint quality, dont know if mine is a bad one , but the lacquer appears so soft that even washing it causes scratches
Why couldnt they have fitted a steering column that moves in and out as well??
Apart from that its marvellous , and i cant wait to get past this wait for 1000 before going over 4k
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Hi CBGB
TBH you will not statrt to get the best from the engine until 6K miles + when it get loosened up. as far a lag goes it is turbocharged, the turbo needs to get upto speed beofre delivering the goods, It should cut in around 3+k revs but if you only are going to 4k during running in then you are not likely to be experiencing much benefit also re turbo lag, change gear and boot it, easier once run in and able to get past 4K revs!
Paint is soft but that is more to do with modern paints i believe.
Steering column - the seat moves i believe, try that
I am a fat basta@d so cannot comment on the seat from your POV - only eat more pies!
for 20K i recon it is a good allround package although surely 17-18K is more the mark for a WRX?
TBH you will not statrt to get the best from the engine until 6K miles + when it get loosened up. as far a lag goes it is turbocharged, the turbo needs to get upto speed beofre delivering the goods, It should cut in around 3+k revs but if you only are going to 4k during running in then you are not likely to be experiencing much benefit also re turbo lag, change gear and boot it, easier once run in and able to get past 4K revs!
Paint is soft but that is more to do with modern paints i believe.
Steering column - the seat moves i believe, try that
I am a fat basta@d so cannot comment on the seat from your POV - only eat more pies!
for 20K i recon it is a good allround package although surely 17-18K is more the mark for a WRX?
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I think he just needs to be patient and wait until he can rev it past 4k to be honest - I dont think most people have noticed that in his post.
No point in recommending PPP, exhaust or upgrades until he's driven the car how it should be driven first.
No point in recommending PPP, exhaust or upgrades until he's driven the car how it should be driven first.
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[QUOTE=cbgb]Is it me , or should things be just a little better on a 20k Car
Just bought my first scoob 05 wrx due its first service this weekend.
There are some things about it that already niggle me .
The lag until the car gets up to 3k
One word for you: MOD!
If you need the warranty get a PPP conversion - this will transform engine response - used with Optimax it will be lag FREE and very responsive - outside warranty you could try cos like WRC at Silverstone for huge performance enhancement - or read last few Scooby Mag articles by Andy Forrest on how to upgrade WRX to over 300 bhp for sensible money
Alternatively, quickly sell and buy 03 / 04 STi PPP - that doesnt lack power or response!! - In winter - wear a neck brace...!! - Tis that violent
You have landed on the first rung of the ladder (a rather expensive route) and tis now the time to mod and revel in its capability...
Just bought my first scoob 05 wrx due its first service this weekend.
There are some things about it that already niggle me .
The lag until the car gets up to 3k
One word for you: MOD!
If you need the warranty get a PPP conversion - this will transform engine response - used with Optimax it will be lag FREE and very responsive - outside warranty you could try cos like WRC at Silverstone for huge performance enhancement - or read last few Scooby Mag articles by Andy Forrest on how to upgrade WRX to over 300 bhp for sensible money
Alternatively, quickly sell and buy 03 / 04 STi PPP - that doesnt lack power or response!! - In winter - wear a neck brace...!! - Tis that violent
You have landed on the first rung of the ladder (a rather expensive route) and tis now the time to mod and revel in its capability...
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If you have waited a long time to get one like i did, your expectations can get too high, relax! sit back and consider what else you can get for 20 k, you have just bought a 222BHP full time 4wd that will hit 60 in under 6 sec, 100 in under 16 and yet is remarkably refined and comfortable and seats 4 adults in comfort with a big boot. Its no longer the fastest thing on the road but you cant go any faster for the money, with ppp of course its a different proposition!
Seat / Wheel - I havent had a problem with the steering adjustment, the seat is very adjustable and when you get comfy the driving position is second to none and the pedals are perfectly placed.
Paint - mines 2yrs old and it has worn well apart from bonnet stone chips.
Power - With any new car its always a bit tight at first, these engines dont lag, below 3k youre simply off full boost, try a Civic Type R below 6k your under the vtec switch. The turbo is beginning to boost at 2k, between 2-3k theres a significant ammount of power, its just that with all 4 pot blown motors the switch at around 3-3.5k is so stunning it makes the lower boost power seem less. The gear ratios are well placed to keep the engine in the power band, you'll get used to it!
Seat / Wheel - I havent had a problem with the steering adjustment, the seat is very adjustable and when you get comfy the driving position is second to none and the pedals are perfectly placed.
Paint - mines 2yrs old and it has worn well apart from bonnet stone chips.
Power - With any new car its always a bit tight at first, these engines dont lag, below 3k youre simply off full boost, try a Civic Type R below 6k your under the vtec switch. The turbo is beginning to boost at 2k, between 2-3k theres a significant ammount of power, its just that with all 4 pot blown motors the switch at around 3-3.5k is so stunning it makes the lower boost power seem less. The gear ratios are well placed to keep the engine in the power band, you'll get used to it!
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With regard to the seats, Halfords do some great booster items
I was dissapointed with my 02 WRX when i first picked it up, because no you cant see what its really like on a test drive!!.
Then i had a complete de-cat exhaust fitted, different car.
Do it as soon as you can.
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I was dissapointed with my 02 WRX when i first picked it up, because no you cant see what its really like on a test drive!!.
Then i had a complete de-cat exhaust fitted, different car.
Do it as soon as you can.
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Interesting responses guys
i apreciate the engine will lossen up an dperformance will get better .
The main gripe was the paint and seats .
I enjoy driving it , and once its on the move its into big grin mode.
Loved the must eat more pies post ..
Things can only get better.......
i apreciate the engine will lossen up an dperformance will get better .
The main gripe was the paint and seats .
I enjoy driving it , and once its on the move its into big grin mode.
Loved the must eat more pies post ..
Things can only get better.......
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Originally Posted by cbgb
The lag until the car gets up to 3k
Originally Posted by cbgb
the fact that the seats are built for larger people, offering very little support for a car that generates so much grip in the corners.
Originally Posted by cbgb
Paint quality, dont know if mine is a bad one , but the lacquer appears so soft that even washing it causes scratches
Originally Posted by cbgb
Why couldnt they have fitted a steering column that moves in and out as well??
Originally Posted by cbgb
Apart from that its marvellous , and i cant wait to get past this wait for 1000 before going over 4k
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Originally Posted by cbgb
Interesting responses guys
i apreciate the engine will lossen up an dperformance will get better .
The main gripe was the paint and seats .
I enjoy driving it , and once its on the move its into big grin mode.
Loved the must eat more pies post ..
Things can only get better.......
i apreciate the engine will lossen up an dperformance will get better .
The main gripe was the paint and seats .
I enjoy driving it , and once its on the move its into big grin mode.
Loved the must eat more pies post ..
Things can only get better.......
As for the modern paint comment - get an Audi and see the difference .
Just remember where they've spent the £20k and you wont go too far wrong - Virtually all the investment is under the bonnet and in protecting you from a bad crash .
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Subaru bodywork and chassis finish is **** to be perfectly honest. But you pay for what you get and it certainly isnt build quality you pay for. A lot of the metal pipework and screws in my engine bay are rusty and the usual wishbone underneath etc and its a V reg 2000. Maybe the newer ones are better who knows. If you want build quality get an Audi or Saab. As for performance it doesnt come alive till after 3k rpm!
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Originally Posted by GRIFF007
should fit in a treat here!!
Oh yes, if the seats are a main gripe (and afterall you do spend a lot of time in them) the yes, you should have gone for an EU car..! I'm a slim 80kg and the seats in my EU 05 WRX hug me just fine..!
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So are the Japs trying to say the Brits are bat fastards compared with EU
Originally Posted by jasonius
I was just thinking af saying the same thing..!
Oh yes, if the seats are a main gripe (and afterall you do spend a lot of time in them) the yes, you should have gone for an EU car..! I'm a slim 80kg and the seats in my EU 05 WRX hug me just fine..!
Oh yes, if the seats are a main gripe (and afterall you do spend a lot of time in them) the yes, you should have gone for an EU car..! I'm a slim 80kg and the seats in my EU 05 WRX hug me just fine..!
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Originally Posted by cbgb
Is it me , or should things be just a little better on a 20k Car
Just bought my first scoob 05 wrx due its first service this weekend.
There are some things about it that already niggle me .
The lag until the car gets up to 3k
the fact that the seats are built for larger people, offering very little support for a car that generates so much grip in the corners.
Paint quality, dont know if mine is a bad one , but the lacquer appears so soft that even washing it causes scratches
Why couldnt they have fitted a steering column that moves in and out as well??
Apart from that its marvellous , and i cant wait to get past this wait for 1000 before going over 4k
Just bought my first scoob 05 wrx due its first service this weekend.
There are some things about it that already niggle me .
The lag until the car gets up to 3k
the fact that the seats are built for larger people, offering very little support for a car that generates so much grip in the corners.
Paint quality, dont know if mine is a bad one , but the lacquer appears so soft that even washing it causes scratches
Why couldnt they have fitted a steering column that moves in and out as well??
Apart from that its marvellous , and i cant wait to get past this wait for 1000 before going over 4k
Do you want some cheese with that whine ?? :P
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Originally Posted by Moray
So are the Japs trying to say the Brits are bat fastards compared with EU
Or could it be that the USA gets the same (supersized) seats..?
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Originally Posted by scoobydooooo
i cannot believehe's moaning and he han't even run it in yet !!
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As someone said on here before the new standard Impreza's are just warmed saloons compared to the rally monsters they use to be. There still amazingly quick, but will get chased by a Civic Type R, Cupra etc people expect too much out of them, but as said above once PPP'd or modified a bit they become a totaly different car!
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thats the real reason they fit an aluminium bonnet to the sti
not to reduce weight but so the stone chips dont rust
i love mine, best 25k i ever spent
budgie
not to reduce weight but so the stone chips dont rust
i love mine, best 25k i ever spent
budgie