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***big end bearing failure IMPORTANT ****
has this happened to ANYONE with a STANDARD scooby,please list the year of your car and the mileage and the outcome (dealer warrenty ?).
i am looking into legal procedings ....
thank you
can a moderator make this sticky
i am looking into legal procedings ....
thank you
can a moderator make this sticky
#5
Originally Posted by scott.w
has this happened to ANYONE with a STANDARD scooby,please list the year of your car and the mileage and the outcome (dealer warrenty ?).
i am looking into legal procedings ....
thank you
can a moderator make this sticky
i am looking into legal procedings ....
thank you
can a moderator make this sticky
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#9
Originally Posted by wrx.co.uk
You need to give more information, but any dealer should cover the car for big end failure for at least 6 months. Other than running out of oil can't see how this could be put down as your fault.
Lee.
Lee.
#10
i was nt even driving it !!!my old man and mother were in it so think it was doing about 40 mph
subaru were going to replace it but there was a service missing out of the book..my car is a 2000 classic with only 41k on it.
subaru were going to replace it but there was a service missing out of the book..my car is a 2000 classic with only 41k on it.
#11
Originally Posted by scott.w
i was nt even driving it !!!my old man and mother were in it so think it was doing about 40 mph
subaru were going to replace it but there was a service missing out of the book..my car is a 2000 classic with only 41k on it.
subaru were going to replace it but there was a service missing out of the book..my car is a 2000 classic with only 41k on it.
Can you clarify:
It is a MY00, but you mention that a service is missing out of the book. What difference does this make:
If you refer to a warranty then I assume you have just recently bought it, in which case the parts and labour warranty should be honoured regardless what services have been done/not done.
If you've not recently bought it, then I am even more confused as to what the problem is.
#12
right,bought the car (myoo uk) about 3 weeks ago private,
big end has gone after it was serviced 600 miles ago by dealer,contacted subaru and they were going to pay 80% of the cost as a "good will" jesture (engine is £3500 +fitting ).i find this a little too easy to beleive ...
when i showed them my service book,one of the services is missing so this is what they are blaming and have done a u turn.
i think subaru know about this fault and are wainting for engines to go instead of doing a product racall,im going to contact trading standards so i what to know from as many people as possible to see how many cars this affects.
big end has gone after it was serviced 600 miles ago by dealer,contacted subaru and they were going to pay 80% of the cost as a "good will" jesture (engine is £3500 +fitting ).i find this a little too easy to beleive ...
when i showed them my service book,one of the services is missing so this is what they are blaming and have done a u turn.
i think subaru know about this fault and are wainting for engines to go instead of doing a product racall,im going to contact trading standards so i what to know from as many people as possible to see how many cars this affects.
#13
hello scott.w i have just had the same thing happen to me well about three months agoand what a wanger it is your looking at beteen £3000 and £4000 for the job, mine was 3800 thats with all uprated forged rods pistons oil and fuel pumps and a few other little odds and sods.
good luck......................
good luck......................
#14
Originally Posted by scott.w
right,bought the car (myoo uk) about 3 weeks ago private,
big end has gone after it was serviced 600 miles ago by dealer,contacted subaru and they were going to pay 80% of the cost as a "good will" jesture (engine is £3500 +fitting ).i find this a little too easy to beleive ...
when i showed them my service book,one of the services is missing so this is what they are blaming and have done a u turn.
i think subaru know about this fault and are wainting for engines to go instead of doing a product racall,im going to contact trading standards so i what to know from as many people as possible to see how many cars this affects.
big end has gone after it was serviced 600 miles ago by dealer,contacted subaru and they were going to pay 80% of the cost as a "good will" jesture (engine is £3500 +fitting ).i find this a little too easy to beleive ...
when i showed them my service book,one of the services is missing so this is what they are blaming and have done a u turn.
i think subaru know about this fault and are wainting for engines to go instead of doing a product racall,im going to contact trading standards so i what to know from as many people as possible to see how many cars this affects.
Have you done *any* v-max runs in the car since you bought it?
#17
Originally Posted by Bubba po
The 45k? But that's a cambelt thing, not a big-end bearing thing.
Its the obvious one to miss if you are selling isn't it now?
Pete
#18
Originally Posted by pslewis
And plugs and all fluids and check of such things as emissions etc.!
Its the obvious one to miss if you are selling isn't it now?
Pete
Its the obvious one to miss if you are selling isn't it now?
Pete
#19
deleted my first msg but now i am defo thinking
maf, or was this only 99 cars>?
top speed run
or just ragged to death i.e over revved.
I DONT think its because it missed a service!!!!
Andy
maf, or was this only 99 cars>?
top speed run
or just ragged to death i.e over revved.
I DONT think its because it missed a service!!!!
Andy
Originally Posted by Bubba po
But he hasn't reached it yet. Am I missing something?
#20
I have just had the same thing happen to me my00 65k full subaru service history! I stoped driving it as soon as I heard it, so damage was minimal. Needed a crank regrind and a rebuild. Rough cost was £2500 and it took me 3 letters to subaru uk to get a £250 goodwill gesture (**** poor IMHO) and the attitude of their tecnical director stunk!
If you dont have a full service history, then you dont really have a leg to stand on m8. I would think you would be best to just keep on and on at subaru until they give in!!
If you dont have a full service history, then you dont really have a leg to stand on m8. I would think you would be best to just keep on and on at subaru until they give in!!
#21
and i hear it so many times.... "scooby engines are bomb proof"
Originally Posted by scooby stu!!
I have just had the same thing happen to me my00 65k full subaru service history! I stoped driving it as soon as I heard it, so damage was minimal. Needed a crank regrind and a rebuild. Rough cost was £2500 and it took me 3 letters to subaru uk to get a £250 goodwill gesture (**** poor IMHO) and the attitude of their tecnical director stunk!
If you dont have a full service history, then you dont really have a leg to stand on m8. I would think you would be best to just keep on and on at subaru until they give in!!
If you dont have a full service history, then you dont really have a leg to stand on m8. I would think you would be best to just keep on and on at subaru until they give in!!
#24
The big end went on my car 4 days after Subaru did an oil leak repair my98 86k, fsh. they refused to accept responsibility and quoted 4k for repair. Car just sitting on drive now! let me know how u got on robsi78@hotmail.com
rob.
rob.
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Ouch!
If I were in your position I'd be taking legal advice right now - and if you want to do that, don't prejudice your case by writing too much about it in public until everything's resolved.
£4k is excessive. You should be paying more like £2k to £2.5k, and that could include things like an uprated oil pump or an STI crankshaft that would help prevent it from happening again. Talk to API Engines, ScoobyClinic, Xtreme Scoobies, Powerstation and Thames Valley Motorsport for starters.
In case it makes you feel any better, when a big end went on my MY00, the total estimate for parts & labour from my Subaru dealer came to a laughable £5,300.
If I were in your position I'd be taking legal advice right now - and if you want to do that, don't prejudice your case by writing too much about it in public until everything's resolved.
£4k is excessive. You should be paying more like £2k to £2.5k, and that could include things like an uprated oil pump or an STI crankshaft that would help prevent it from happening again. Talk to API Engines, ScoobyClinic, Xtreme Scoobies, Powerstation and Thames Valley Motorsport for starters.
In case it makes you feel any better, when a big end went on my MY00, the total estimate for parts & labour from my Subaru dealer came to a laughable £5,300.
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
Ouch!
If I were in your position I'd be taking legal advice right now - and if you want to do that,
£4k is excessive. You should be paying more like £2k to £2.5k, and that could include things like an uprated oil pump or an STI crankshaft that would help prevent it from happening again. Talk to API Engines, ScoobyClinic, Xtreme Scoobies, Powerstation and Thames Valley Motorsport for starters.
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If I were in your position I'd be taking legal advice right now - and if you want to do that,
£4k is excessive. You should be paying more like £2k to £2.5k, and that could include things like an uprated oil pump or an STI crankshaft that would help prevent it from happening again. Talk to API Engines, ScoobyClinic, Xtreme Scoobies, Powerstation and Thames Valley Motorsport for starters.
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#28
did think about legal action but it the costs and the fought of losing. Subaru said that it was the oil leak that caused the big end to go. As a good will thingy they striped down all the work they did to make sure that it weren't anything they done! is there anyone on here who can give legal advice?
rob
rob
#29
With a big end failure it is always important to strip & assess the damage. It also needs to be found out as to what caused the failure.Speaking to a solicitor will help in the first instance as to where you stand legally.
Though in at least 40 terminal failures where engineers were called to inspect damage, only 1 engine was rebuilt under warranty (These examples are where customers had a warranty 3rd party).
In the majority of the above, whilst I have extensive reports the all to common phrase is "wear & tear". Mileages seen are between 18000 & 75000 & 4-5 years old. On subsequent visits customers may "out" the truth & the commonality is top end speed maybe 1/2 weeks prior to the big ends going.
IMHO the Subaru is seen as the WRC Rally Car & by most is driven as such (though with Solbergs input this year some owners maybe pushing a bit harder However under these conditions a great deal of high spec cars would also suffer the same fate.
Though in at least 40 terminal failures where engineers were called to inspect damage, only 1 engine was rebuilt under warranty (These examples are where customers had a warranty 3rd party).
In the majority of the above, whilst I have extensive reports the all to common phrase is "wear & tear". Mileages seen are between 18000 & 75000 & 4-5 years old. On subsequent visits customers may "out" the truth & the commonality is top end speed maybe 1/2 weeks prior to the big ends going.
IMHO the Subaru is seen as the WRC Rally Car & by most is driven as such (though with Solbergs input this year some owners maybe pushing a bit harder However under these conditions a great deal of high spec cars would also suffer the same fate.
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Originally Posted by Gidney&Knowlesy
With a big end failure it is always important to strip & assess the damage. It also needs to be found out as to what caused the failure.Speaking to a solicitor will help in the first instance as to where you stand legally.
Though in at least 40 terminal failures where engineers were called to inspect damage, only 1 engine was rebuilt under warranty (These examples are where customers had a warranty 3rd party).
In the majority of the above, whilst I have extensive reports the all to common phrase is "wear & tear". Mileages seen are between 18000 & 75000 & 4-5 years old. On subsequent visits customers may "out" the truth & the commonality is top end speed maybe 1/2 weeks prior to the big ends going.
IMHO the Subaru is seen as the WRC Rally Car & by most is driven as such (though with Solbergs input this year some owners maybe pushing a bit harder However under these conditions a great deal of high spec cars would also suffer the same fate.
Though in at least 40 terminal failures where engineers were called to inspect damage, only 1 engine was rebuilt under warranty (These examples are where customers had a warranty 3rd party).
In the majority of the above, whilst I have extensive reports the all to common phrase is "wear & tear". Mileages seen are between 18000 & 75000 & 4-5 years old. On subsequent visits customers may "out" the truth & the commonality is top end speed maybe 1/2 weeks prior to the big ends going.
IMHO the Subaru is seen as the WRC Rally Car & by most is driven as such (though with Solbergs input this year some owners maybe pushing a bit harder However under these conditions a great deal of high spec cars would also suffer the same fate.