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Old 13 July 2005, 06:48 PM
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i was wondering how many times people go into the red on the rev limiter?

what sort of damage can this do?

is it right that when you go past about 4500 revs its past its best so your actually loosing power?

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Old 13 July 2005, 07:14 PM
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I hit the rev limiter regularly in every car I own. It's there to stop damage occuring.

Driving along in 2nd on the limiter might not be the best thing you can do though
Old 13 July 2005, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
I hit the rev limiter regularly in every car I own. It's there to stop damage occuring.

Driving along in 2nd on the limiter might not be the best thing you can do though
yup, I use it briefly but often. It's a bit noisy to cruise along in "the red" on motorways though...
Old 13 July 2005, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dannytwo
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is it right that when you go past about 4500 revs its past its best so your actually loosing power?

I rarely go into the red,Theres really no need,I think 4500rpm is very low though.My car makes its max power around 6200rpm i normally top out around 6500 then change gear which brings the revs down to around where i have the max torque.

I dont always drive it like this only when giving it some.
Old 13 July 2005, 07:58 PM
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I've only been in the red twice - each time when i've selected 2nd instead of 4th.
Old 13 July 2005, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick_Cat
I've only been in the red twice - each time when i've selected 2nd instead of 4th.
lol yea they do scream a bit when you do that
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Thats a good way to by pass the limiter and break your engine!
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going into the red isnt great for ur engine,just causes that little bit more wear. theres also no point as ur peak torque and power will be about 1000rpm below ur rev limiter, so in theory u are loosing time/power
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.....well you could also say going above 4000 rpm causes further wear.
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Originally Posted by Nick_Cat
I've only been in the red twice - each time when i've selected 2nd instead of 4th.
Once so far in my Octavia vRS - during a spirited overtaking manoeuvre

Years ago my (original model) 323i - occasionally on the rev limiter in top (4th).

And even earlier in my modded Vitesse 2-litre excursions well into the red were a regular event - 7000rpm in 1st was about 60 No rev limiter - just valve bounce and mechanical sympathy
Old 13 July 2005, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dannytwo
i was wondering how many times people go into the red on the rev limiter?

what sort of damage can this do?

is it right that when you go past about 4500 revs its past its best so your actually loosing power?

cheers
dannytwo
Nah, most scoobies develop there peak power between 5.5 and 6.5 k mate! Nothing wrong with taking it up to 6.5 (assuming you've got a non-sti) and then change into the next gear so you fall right into the powerband once again. It's not worth going any higher really cause the power tails off and all you'll get it more noise and increased engine wear

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Old 13 July 2005, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
.....well you could also say going above 4000 rpm causes further wear.
oh let me see. 50% more revs................... leaner fuel,hotter oil,more friction............
Old 13 July 2005, 08:33 PM
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would it have done any damage going in the red once?
was overtaking in 3rd and it just touched the red and the engine made a funny noise
Old 13 July 2005, 08:35 PM
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go drive your car and stop being a fanny
Old 13 July 2005, 08:36 PM
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look, out of all the cars in all the world the cars best suited to be thrashed/red lined are scoobies! oh,no thats just mine with forged pistons and holow valves ............
Old 13 July 2005, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by C 8HEP
oh let me see. 50% more revs................... leaner fuel,hotter oil,more friction............
It's a modern jap car - drive it and enjoy it. Hardly a thourough bred race engined car.

Lets just answer the guys question.
Old 13 July 2005, 09:14 PM
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i avoid taking my car into the red. ive done it twice and only because i missed a gear. i usually take it to 6.500 i think redline is 7.000 allways 500 rpm below. my axgt though it used to go through redline quite often. it ended up spiting oil out ov every where so thats why i dont do it in the scoob 93 wrx import.
Old 13 July 2005, 09:31 PM
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i dont ever.....purely because i cant i had my rev limiter set at 6800 on my tek3 map as a bit of an extra safety margin due to running much higher boost on a uk engine. As many people have said, at this engine speed your peak power has already been and gone and if you change gear just befor eit then it drops you back in to peak torque....
Old 13 July 2005, 09:36 PM
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My Redline at 8000 rpm is used often when drag racing .

Well I change at about 7900rpm

Drive your car like a man you **** Jockeys
Old 13 July 2005, 10:30 PM
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The funny noise was probably where you just caught the rev limiter
Old 13 July 2005, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by axgt_bwaii
go drive your car and stop being a fanny
LMAO
Old 13 July 2005, 11:25 PM
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Only a right BANKER would like to go into the RED!!!

Grow up, the lot of ya'!!!

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how many times do you go into the red?

erm.....seven times


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Old 14 July 2005, 06:07 PM
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I go into the red now and again, then i go to the petrol station and put more fuel in
Old 14 July 2005, 06:16 PM
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lol
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Took the Scoob into the red a couple of times not long after I got it cos I was used to being able to drive up till 9500rpm in the RX8, it was great as it just kept pulling an pulling, almost had a liniar power band, the best bit was above 6500rpm in that, when booting it always took it into the red
Saying that I have alway been more warey about taking conventional pitoned engines into the red, usually change about 6500 or 7k in the scoob

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