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Old 11 August 2005, 01:17 PM
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Angry scooby is costing me a fortune HELP !!!

Blooby scooby is costing me a fortune..

Well its a 99 classic turbo..

with a FSSH.Oil change every 5000 miles by scoobyclinic.its done 67000 miles

I drive it hard but not too hard and the thing just keeps going wrong.

In the last 4 months ive had

NEW

Starter motor Due to it not wanting to go

Full Engine and gear box rebuild as piston 3 refused to budge and screwed everything up.

Heater matrix packed up..

Rear diff started making knocking noises.

central locking packed up.

is this normal or have I just got a bad one. Its just the last 4-5 months the thing seems to be falling apart.. iam FED UP cus i love it but cant keep spending on it..HELP !!!!!
Old 11 August 2005, 01:20 PM
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sounds like you have been unlucky mate, either the car had been ragged by previous owners or you drive it like you stole it, or you are just damn unlucky.

as for help, get a second job or sell a kidney / lung on ebay.
Old 11 August 2005, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby_99turbo
Blooby scooby is costing me a fortune..

Well its a 99 classic turbo..

with a FSSH.Oil change every 5000 miles by scoobyclinic.its done 67000 miles

I drive it hard but not too hard and the thing just keeps going wrong.

In the last 4 months ive had

NEW

Starter motor Due to it not wanting to go

Full Engine and gear box rebuild as piston 3 refused to budge and screwed everything up.

Heater matrix packed up..

Rear diff started making knocking noises.

central locking packed up.

is this normal or have I just got a bad one. Its just the last 4-5 months the thing seems to be falling apart.. iam FED UP cus i love it but cant keep spending on it..HELP !!!!!
Sounds like you've got a dud, or one that's been abused. How many previous owners did it have?

Fingers crossed it'll start to behave itself now!

All the best.

NS04
Old 11 August 2005, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by fitzscoob
sounds like you have been unlucky mate, either the car had been ragged by previous owners or you drive it like you stole it, or you are just damn unlucky.

as for help, get a second job or sell a kidney / lung on ebay.
last owner was a 60 year old DR NO it wasnt shipman before you lot start..

Unlucky me thinks
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Its not normal and sounds as if you been very unlucky.

MY99/00 UK: Mine has done 65k miles (with me for 55k of those miles). Irregularly serviced. Driven very hard and has only had the following go wrong:

Gearbox nut came loose after 25k miles
Gearbox broke after LOTS of abuse @ 350bhp(ish).

I've found it very reliable.


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Old 11 August 2005, 01:29 PM
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Might be worth your while to purchase a warrantee of some sort.

Bob
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
Might be worth your while to purchase a warrantee of some sort.

Bob
I recon the horse has bolted Bob

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Sounds like a spot of bad luck, unless of course you have gzillion BHP running through it?
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Originally Posted by scooby_99turbo
last owner was a 60 year old DR NO it wasnt shipman before you lot start..

Unlucky me thinks
You weren't told this by a dealer were you
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Originally Posted by GrollySTI
You weren't told this by a dealer were you
No by the 60 year old guy stood infront of me who owned the car from new..

2 owner from new inc me.

I tell you what though THERE GREAT FUN AINT THEY..
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Originally Posted by AC-scoobie
Sounds like a spot of bad luck, unless of course you have gzillion BHP running through it?
Nah nothing major

3" stainless straight through

water injection

remapped

platium plugs

K&N Induction KIt

intercooler spray kit.

Pushing just shy of 300BHP
Old 11 August 2005, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby_99turbo
Blooby scooby is costing me a fortune..

Well its a 99 classic turbo..

with a FSSH.Oil change every 5000 miles by scoobyclinic.its done 67000 miles

I drive it hard but not too hard and the thing just keeps going wrong.

In the last 4 months ive had

NEW

Starter motor Due to it not wanting to go

Full Engine and gear box rebuild as piston 3 refused to budge and screwed everything up.

Heater matrix packed up..

Rear diff started making knocking noises.

central locking packed up.

is this normal or have I just got a bad one. Its just the last 4-5 months the thing seems to be falling apart.. iam FED UP cus i love it but cant keep spending on it..HELP !!!!!
Hmmm... never had ANY issues... x3 classic STi's Jap imports two with vague history.. one frsh off the boat with high k's... not one issue...

My current STi has been loved its entire life with every single recepit of everything. Motul fully synth every 5k. Diff & gearbox oil changed every 10k.

Really, as long as you look after them.. even if you don't they shoudl be AOK @ 67k... then again it can jsut be bad luck sometimes.

It's easy to justify power *mods and not so with stock service items... only mod a car with a solid base.. no point in expecting more when the basics have not been done.
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Originally Posted by scooby_99turbo
Nah nothing major

3" stainless straight through

water injection

remapped

platium plugs

K&N Induction KIt

intercooler spray kit.

Pushing just shy of 300BHP
Hmmm, don't think the bad luck story is holding much water now. I'm guessing it's a UK classic? If so you're putting another 85ish BHP through it, things will start to go a lot sooner.
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Originally Posted by scooby_99turbo
Nah nothing major

3" stainless straight through

water injection

remapped

platium plugs

K&N Induction KIt

intercooler spray kit.

Pushing just shy of 300BHP
A fair bit shy of 300bhp I would say.

What was the cause of the engine failure?

Did your water injection ever run out of water?


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Old 11 August 2005, 06:21 PM
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My MY99 (UK) has FSH with just over 90K on it. Light mods (zorst, and "new car" magic tree).

So far, I've had #3 piston die (but replaced under Subaru warrantee, as it happend prior to my picking the car up!!), the cause was a failing MAF (again, replaced), a 2nd failing MAF (replaced) due to a clumsy service. and a Lambda sensor (again, replaced).

Fingers crossed etc, that's all - minor things really. FWIW, sounds like you've been really unlucky.....

Dan
Old 11 August 2005, 09:15 PM
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I have had in the last week the same problem with Piston failure, or so I am told. I am afraid I don't have the knowledge or the time to strip an engine down. I got the best quote from Dave at API for a rebuild, but in the end I part exchanged the car.

I have lost so much money on the car that I didn't feel like getting it fixed. I still wanted a scooby so I bit the bullet and brought the STI I always wanted. Finger crossed that this one is not going to let me down...I am sure it won't, it was just really bad luck.
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MY00 2nd owner had since 30k now on 50k........serviced yearly by the clinic and last service was alittle late from memory went 10k without service.

Only problem had was duff battery......that and wear/tear parts like brakes etc etc but other than that never let my family down yet (touching wooden cmputer desk)

Saying that mine only gets drivin hard once in a blue moon
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how hard do u drive the car...... do u let the oil warm up (as in first 10 mins or more of boost).... this is so much more important that u may think.
a few people on ere may tell u that u dont need fully syn oil, but it will help,,,, not at low temps but at high temps (eg a top speed run) as a cheeper oil will be broke down and be as usefull as water in ya sump.

any hows i dont mean to have a banta at you ...... im just trying to help save you from having any more problems in the future.

good luck
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Its a funny thing I was warned B4 about the cost of running a scooby.

I too have had engine rebuild, due to no3 bearing. Gearbox and Rear diff bearing replaced. Proflex suspension cos the standard had gone. New wheels and tyres as a standard gold wheel was bent (not me), exhaust for the SVA test shipping to UK and now a respray, cat1 alarm, etc.

Still when it works it the Dawgs B~~ll~cks and makes me smile 0- 60mph in under 4.5s.

Dawg
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Originally Posted by AC-scoobie
Hmmm, don't think the bad luck story is holding much water now. I'm guessing it's a UK classic? If so you're putting another 85ish BHP through it, things will start to go a lot sooner.
Hmm wots wrong with UK classics?? do they got some kind of reputation for Fooking up??

im just curious as i recently got one
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Originally Posted by Á¢ïÐ
Hmm wots wrong with UK classics?? do they got some kind of reputation for Fooking up??

im just curious as i recently got one
Nothing mate, just the engines and drivetrain are not really meant to be pushing 300bhp! SO if you do get problems you can't really complain.
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Originally Posted by Á¢ïÐ
Hmm wots wrong with UK classics?? do they got some kind of reputation for Fooking up??

im just curious as i recently got one
no the aint nothing wrong with that car mate
infact it is a very good modle to have as it is set to uk fuel
wer as us import boys often have our ecu`s remaped or use octane booster to be on the safe side.

just the big difference with a classic uk is that it wont handle 300+bhp as well as a sti etc
but sayin that a sti could be tuned at the same time and go pop first!!!!!
lol
on the other hand both the cars could do 100,000miles if taken care of
so dont stress ya self out mate,


just enjoy the car
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so UK cars aint really up to the task of being modified?? :-(

The garage i got mine from said that the only diffrence UK cars had to imports were a diffrent gear box (cant remember if it had a higher ratio gearbox or a lower one ) and a heavier body shell as opposed to the jap ones(i got the 2000 turbo)
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Originally Posted by Á¢ïÐ
so UK cars aint really up to the task of being modified?? :-(

The garage i got mine from said that the only diffrence UK cars had to imports were a diffrent gear box (cant remember if it had a higher ratio gearbox or a lower one ) and a heavier body shell as opposed to the jap ones(i got the 2000 turbo)
The garage lied to you mate. The imports come in two flavours WRX and STI, both have more BHP than the UK models and usally more equipment. The STI has a much stronger engine for modding.

That's not to say the UK can't be moded only you have to be more conservative. I wouldn't go over 270/280 bhp.
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Originally Posted by Á¢ïÐ
so UK cars aint really up to the task of being modified?? :-(

The garage i got mine from said that the only diffrence UK cars had to imports were a diffrent gear box (cant remember if it had a higher ratio gearbox or a lower one ) and a heavier body shell as opposed to the jap ones(i got the 2000 turbo)
if u wanna mod ya car mate, then just do it.
my mate had a 1998 uk impreza with boost controller
exhaust
decat
and air filter

and trust me it was fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wen my car was about 300bhp i found it very hard to pull away from him but we dont know what it was pushing cos it was never put on the rollers.


just use a good tuning company e.g. www.andyforrestperformance.co.uk
(he uses det cans to make sure the engine dont det etc which is a very good thing)

go on make it faster,,,,, **** those boys of in the porsches lol

trust me its well good fun
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Originally Posted by AC-scoobie
The garage lied to you mate. .
Yep, they were telling a whopping porkie!!

Subaru claim that 80% of the engine on the STI is different to that of the UK Turbos IIRC. It's basically stronger to cope with the extra grunt.

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Originally Posted by STI Craig
if u wanna mod ya car mate, then just do it.
my mate had a 1998 uk impreza with boost controller
exhaust
decat
and air filter

and trust me it was fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wen my car was about 300bhp i found it very hard to pull away from him but we dont know what it was pushing cos it was never put on the rollers.


just use a good tuning company e.g. www.andyforrestperformance.co.uk
(he uses det cans to make sure the engine dont det etc which is a very good thing)

go on make it faster,,,,, **** those boys of in the porsches lol

trust me its well good fun
yea i had plans to do a bit of modding i quite fancied taking it up around the 350+ BHP mark so im a little bit gutted finding out i might do it a lot of damage if i do so.

anybody ever had dealings with this guy www.indycarsales.co.uk ??

this is the place where i bought mine
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Originally Posted by Á¢ïÐ
yea i had plans to do a bit of modding i quite fancied taking it up around the 350+ BHP mark so im a little bit gutted finding out i might do it a lot of damage if i do so.

anybody ever had dealings with this guy www.indycarsales.co.uk ??

this is the place where i bought mine
i never heard of them mate sorry mate.



if your going for 350+bhp then u are going to put a fair bit of cash in to it i guess?
so its best its done right the first time with a company who has alot of experience with scoobys.

if you tell us where your from then im sure myself or someone on here will point you in the best possible direction!!!!


also ill let u in on a little secret that i know u will like
ive just managed to get myself some eagle conrods and wiseco forged pistons for just £500

usually your lookin at 200 per rod
and near 200 per piston


thats just under £1600

ill give u some more info in a mo wen im back in a hour or 2 if u want bud
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Acid: I wouldnt worry about it....

<<<<Mine is a std UK engine.

People have had 400bhp with no probs whilst others have had std engines let go. There's no definitive answer but there seems to be the odd bad one.

Gearboxes can struggle a bit more than the STi boxes, but i wouldn't expect a STi gearbox to reliably hold any sort of decent torque with hard use.

UK cars have nicer gear ratios IMO.

Yes the engine is stronger on an STi but there are also pitfalls to STi ownership.....insurance costs.....has the correct fuel been used by previous owners etc.


Bob
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Originally Posted by STI Craig
i never heard of them mate sorry mate.



if your going for 350+bhp then u are going to put a fair bit of cash in to it i guess?
so its best its done right the first time with a company who has alot of experience with scoobys.

if you tell us where your from then im sure myself or someone on here will point you in the best possible direction!!!!


also ill let u in on a little secret that i know u will like
ive just managed to get myself some eagle conrods and wiseco forged pistons for just £500

usually your lookin at 200 per rod
and near 200 per piston


thats just under £1600

ill give u some more info in a mo wen im back in a hour or 2 if u want bud
i live in peterhead about 33 miles from aberdeen quite close to wallace performance so i guess ill put it in there for the upgrades im gonna do

We got a place here in town called cartech who do upgrades etc.. but i would stick it in to wallace performance due to there experiance


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