The Gaffer

Scooby Clinic would like to thank the guys at WRC Techbologies for the free advertising they have given us and many other subaru specialists in this months Japanese Performance magazine out today.

We look foward to running your car on our dyno next Saturday, should be fun.

Kev

Granby

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p1doc

with their tame racing driver-slightly unfair
martin

baddermans

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Fuzz

Andy

Daz34

WRC-T2

It's a pleasure. My Business Partner Chris [who does ads, web site etc] likes to share with everyone.
I see Powerstation have made little mention vis-a-vis the two pro drivers in their 2006 Spec "C" ? both have ARDS licences and have competed in many high profile National & International events. Richard Meaden in Formula Palmer Audi & Porsche Carrera Cup and Phil Keen in British GT in a Mosler and TVR Tuscans !! So no real difference in driver calibre/capability ?

As for our car it's only a simple standard EJ20 2003 Spec "C" with a top mount, 3" APS Turbo back exhaust with sports cat, APS induction kit. So should only run 350 BHP & 355 Lb-ft on the day on Optimax.

Can I run early as my fiancee' needs me back in MK around 13-30 ?

Cheers

Allan

LitchfieldImports

Alan, if I remember rightly Powerstation did most of their talking and advertising on track when they had the:
• Fastest Japanese car (Of any kind)
• Fastest Subaru (Of any kind)
• Fastest 2,000cc-2,999cc car (Of any kind)

Evo Magazine’s E36 M3 was also set the fastest lap in it’s class, I wonder who did its exhaust and suspension set up??…… Oh yes now I remember ……. Powerstation set that up as well

Scoobyclinic made a similar statement with their stonking time down the drag strip

Your right we did take it seriously with a good driver like (22year old) Phil Keen who Powerstation map his impressive Mosler in the British GT championship

You might want to have a word with your partner Chris as it’s hardly the way to forge business to business relations in what is a normally friendly industry Imagine what he’d be like if you won something?

Still it’s great that you guys have also shown how fast the Spec C can be hustled around a track

Out of interest why would you go to another companies rolling road / public day??

Iain

Daz34

Don't mean to stick my nose in but it is probably to set the record straight after the civil war that has ensued on the MLR.

WRC-T2

Iain
Most Aussies are outspoken, forthright and perhaps a touch arrogant but some of these qualities are sometimes required to make progress today. Chris of course will be unbearable when WRC Tech are winning on a regular basis. We already set up the alignment on the "works" Jun 2wd Subaru for Koyama san [Mr Jun] he seemed pleased with our work and the car got to the final of D1 drifting at Silverstone last weekend.

I was intending going along to a Scoobynet meeting for a bit of a social, seems common practise, we have had RC Devs, NR Autosport etc run their demo cars, personal cars and client cars at our Dyno Days. We even had someone from Powerstation here at our last Scooby day, he intimated he was after pointers on how they should run their days IIRC. Plagarism is the highest form of flattery of course.

If I am unwelcome I will gladly retract my interest. ??

Cheers for now.

Allan

Fuzz

Hey don't drag me into this, I was looking to compare my own car against Powerstations rollers as I had never taken it anywhere else.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Spent most of the morning talking to Shaun actually and then left shortly after as I had a BBQ to attend.

Thanks for checking and topping up the oil though.

Andy


(edited to add, not delete)

chrome

not arf!

Fuzz

Oi.. leave my gifs alone.

mikeesingh

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Surely the real performance test is on the drag strip, where fewer outside influences are allowed to affect the outcome. On the track, you have to take into consideration such factors as slower traffic, driver skills, allowing for sufficient warm-up laps and most importantly, whether or not a new car is actually being driven competitively or just being tested. I believe all these factors should be considered before publicly claiming that one particular car is quicker than another. The WRC Technologies claim of victory over the Lichfield car may appear true to some, but to those in the know it is a hollow victory for them. If they want respect for their efforts then they need to also prove it on the 1/4 mile strip. As they decided against entering the dragstrip challange at Donington, perhaps they should sign up for Scooby Shootout 2006.

mikee
Tuner GP 2005 Dragstrip 0-60 & 1/4 mile Challenge Winner

WRC-T2

Mikee

Each discipline has it's own merits and demerits. As both myself and Chris have extensive history in circuit racing this appealed more to us. However it is true to some extent, that if all you want is outright BHP then drag racing will prove that [as long as RT is same] one car has more than another.

The real world has bends, hills, dips, roundabouts etc so a more rounded balaced car offers far more to the masses. So a car with less power but a good chassis set up and great brakes, excellent torque etc can be quicker cross country than one with simply more BHP. So if we come to a shootout, our car may not be fastest top speed, or fastest accelerating but it will be among the best handling and will not disgrace itself in the other categories but it will be built as a car that can be used everyday.

Another thing with drag racing or top speeds are the brackets, who will care now if someone else in a Subaru goes 211 MPH--No one Andy Forrest was first over 200 ! Someone needs to go 230 or 240 before it will make headlines. Same with Drags, no one will notice nor care if someone takes 1/10th off the current fastest Scooby [9.48 ??] No one will notice again unless someone runs in UK in the 8sec bracket. This will again make a headline.

These are of course only my opinions.

Cheers

Allan

Aztec Performance Ltd

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Allan,

I think you are wrong with regards to people not caring if records are broken on the drag and top speed events.... I think you'll find lots of 'hits' when someone does beat the current best times.

Less people will be concerned imo if one scoob goes a few 10ths faster on a lap of some track faster than another scoob. With 1/4mile times performance is easily measurable.


Bob


PS. I bet there will be more people going to watch JapShow than the Tuner GP Circuit event

wrc350bhp

been on both dynos and wrc were surprised there results were higher.

WRC-T2

Bob you are probably correct at the mo but remember totb started small as did other events. I hope it grows to be as revered as the German one but only time will tell.

Cheers

Allan

Aztec Performance Ltd

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The idea to combine drag, drift and track is nice, but the people behind it will be the reason it wont do well imo.

People just seem to have more of an interest in watching drag racing rather than circuit racing.


Bob

WRC-T2

Cool. Maybe we need to build a competitive drag car, once we have made a few bob that is.....LOL

Cheers

Allan

scooby-k

I went to tuner gt and really enjoyed it shame the car clubs were isolated would have been nice to have them more central. this event has great potential.
ken

ex-webby

I always thought it strange why F1 was so popular then!!

Seriously though......

I suggest that is alot to do with the localness of the sport.... i.e. anyone can turn up and do a drag run, where as that may still be the same for circuit racing, very few are willing to do this because of the potential risks and lack of bottle! (meant in a realistic way)

Drag Racing is cheap and immediate. Of course Drag Racing for spectators is also normally better in a way, because they can see a lot of the action.

As has been said before, both have their merits etc, but historically circuit racing has always been the professionally recognised sport to the masses. For what ever reason, drag racing has never had the same links, and for this reason I can understand thoroughly why companies would rather be associated with circuit racing (probably to Joe public, track racing is more directly associated to road driving than drag racing is..... hence why The World Rally Championship is also a major exposure for car companies involved, however far removed production cars are - as it is all down to perception).

Regards,
Shaun.

DevilHimSelf

Err, have i missed some gossip then? Or can someone translate in to plain speak whats this all about?

Or should i leave the room now ? :P

warrenm2

read the WRC website where they are talking about the fastest sti 7/8/9

Under the Tuner GP section - at least thats what I think its all about!

SPEN555

Where abouts?

Daz34

Mike Wood is right. As usual.
All this Sti 7/8/9 stuff causes trouble

baddermans

can we move on now this is so last mounths topic i am sure someone can bring suttun better to the table

p1doc

such as?
martin

baddermans

global warming and the american admistration always seems to go well.

The Gaffer

Hi, sorry to hijack me thread but........ in response to an earlier post......
what were the figures?, who's read higher?,have you got copys of the printouts?.
I apologise for all the questions but both Scoobyclinic and Wrc technologies run the same Dyno Dynamics rolling roads, and if set up correctly each day for air temp and barometric pressure they should read aprox the same, at least within a few Bhp.
We conduted a test straight after instaling our dyno using a very famous subaru, it was run on our rollers then driven straight down to G force (the original Dyno Dynamics owners) the Bhp figure was just one Bhp higher, pretty accurate we think.
As I say I would like to take a look at the printouts, if you dont want to put them on scooby net simply E.mail the to info@scoobyclinic.com
Cheers
Kev.