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Old 28 September 2000 | 02:51 PM
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Chaps,
anyone know how much for a set, where to get them (aside for a dealer), and how easy to fit (MY99 Turbo)???

Read somewhere that the clutch judder from cold and general clatter can be due to the plugs. Not sure how that would help but if it's cheapish I'll give it a go.

Unless anyone reckons that's a total waste of time.
Old 28 September 2000 | 03:28 PM
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Erm...sorry about the gratuituous "plug" (pun intended ) for my company but...

I can supply NGK Platinum plugs for £35 inc. postage and VAT.
E-mail me if interested.
Part no. NGK PFR6B.

I've just spoken to NGK's technical department, and they advise that under normal conditions these plugs should be good for 60,000 miles.

I understand that NGK don't have the O.E. contract for this particular application (at least not according to NGK U.K. - but see update below), but have you done 60,000 miles in a MY99 car?

Sorry, don't know about clutch juddering or general clattering being the fault of your spark plugs. Maybe someone with better technical knowledge than me could advise.

Fitting - boxer engine - access might be difficult - wouldn't try it unless you know what you're doing!

Good luck...


Rich

UPDATE 16.10.2000

Just been to the STi site
Old 28 September 2000 | 05:35 PM
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Clutch judder, spark plugs.

Complete waste of time.

If the judder is bad enough to bother you get it into your award winning dealer and tell them to fix it as a known problem undr warranty.

General clatter. Unless it sounds like a diesel, that's what it's supposed to sound like.

Get yourself along to a meet and listen to some others for a comparison. Your profile doesn't say where you are.
Old 28 September 2000 | 08:06 PM
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Thanks chaps.

No, only done 10000 odd miles, and thought it sounded an unlikely explanation.

I think I read it in Car magazine as they were talking about the new model.

It's already been to the dealer who says it's moderate slip and prbably not worth doing (seing as it's a UK import they were not too bothered to urge me.)

I have heard several Scoobs and know it's a trait, however on some mornings it sound like a diesel. THe garage says this is normal and to do with clearance on no 3 cylinder (cobblers me thinks). It got better after an oil change, but seems to be coming back once in a while now). Trust me, it sounds pretty bad for a minute or two.

Old 28 September 2000 | 11:20 PM
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I have also seen that the clutch judder can be cured by changing the plugs - it also cures the hesitation at 3000 rpm as well on cold mornings ..... cant think that it would be the plugs - and they cant be accessed easy either!!!

But anyway thats what I have heard??

My car is 6800 miles and can have clutch judder sometimes - how bad does it need to be to get replaced??

Plus does the flywheel get dumped also??

pete
Old 29 September 2000 | 10:29 AM
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Do a search on "clutch judder" on this forum and you'll see what people have negotiated out of dealers.
Old 29 September 2000 | 12:38 PM
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Righto,
I may give it a go one Sunday when I'm bored.

It'll be cheaper than the petrol for me to get to the garage!

So, I gather this has to be approached from the underside of the car.

Anyone who has actually changed their plugs care to offer me a few pointers......
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