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Old 26 October 2005, 11:17 PM
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Default If I had £1.5k to spend on mods...

what would it be best spent on?

This is purely extra engine/power mods.

On my bugeye WRX, I have an Afterburner zorst system, decatted from turbo back, soon to have the pre turbo up pipe decatted too. I have a JR panel filter, Ecutec remapping and a bailey vta dump valve for what its worth
Currently boosting at 1.2bar.

Now, due to a low compression cylinder 4 and misfire on the same cylinder, my engines coming out and being opened up. When its put back i`d like it to basically be quicker. My new passion is the 1/4 mile strip if thats any use to you.

So, 1.5k to spend on mods, which ones though? FMIC? bigger TMIC? Turbo? fuel pump? injectors?

help and sensible suggestions required please

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Old 26 October 2005, 11:19 PM
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Driver Training Day
Old 26 October 2005, 11:21 PM
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Nah, I know I`ve got a scoob, but I prefer straight line speed Especially after losing it twice at quarry Scarey **** that
Old 26 October 2005, 11:27 PM
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I think it would be uprated top mount for me with injectors and perhaps a TD05 turbo? That should pump out about 320 odd bhp I believe with the other mods you have plus uprated fuel pump and regulator.

With the engine being opened up it would be nice to uprate internals though. Maybe forged pistons and stronger valve springs for a higher red line - don't know about this to be honest - just guessing here.
Old 26 October 2005, 11:29 PM
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I`d obviously need another remap too with all that then.................... more money!!
Old 26 October 2005, 11:32 PM
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and will have to remember to be gentle with the standard 5 speed box!
Old 26 October 2005, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by v5 man
Especially after losing it twice at quarry Scarey **** that
All the more reson for driver training I'm feeling!
Old 26 October 2005, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben WRX Bug-Eye
and will have to remember to be gentle with the standard 5 speed box!
Next you`ll say the clutch wont take the power hike either!!!
Old 26 October 2005, 11:35 PM
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at least if that goes you'll have a good excuse to fit a lightened and balanced flywheel!
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I`d obviously need another remap too with all that then.................... more money!!
You gotta love remap's
Old 26 October 2005, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevetas
All the more reson for driver training I'm feeling!
Fair point, well made,........ but already binned ta
Old 26 October 2005, 11:38 PM
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Back to the £1.5k then

cos thats all it`d be, what should I go for?
Old 26 October 2005, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by v5 man
Back to the £1.5k then

cos thats all it`d be, what should I go for?
I'd defiantely go for an uprated TMIC (about 300ish). FMIC isn't worth it unless going for big big power from what i've heard. New turbo is a must as I know the TD04 is a limiting factor when trying to go over 280 odd bhp. Should be able to get something appropriate for about 600ish.

That leaves you with £600 for the remap and injectors plus other goodies. Turbo choice is a tough one though - I know there are trade off's to be made between driveability (not too laggy) and out right power.

I am sure someone else can advise on the turbo.
Old 26 October 2005, 11:56 PM
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Nice one, thats much better One thing, I would have thought that a remap would take care of any turbo lag though?! Maybe Im an idiot though
Old 27 October 2005, 12:03 AM
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best thing you could do with a bugeye WRX and 1.5k is buy an STI
Old 27 October 2005, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tath
best thing you could do with a bugeye WRX and 1.5k is buy an STI
we are talking well beyond STI specifications here...
Old 27 October 2005, 12:09 AM
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Exactly Ben Mines already got suspension mods, brake mods, exterior mods, interior mods etc, why do I need an STi My power at present was read at 247bhp/266 lb of torque, but with only 3.5 cylinders
Old 27 October 2005, 12:22 AM
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Your injectors should be fine for plenty in excess of 300bhp.
I would go for an STi 8 i/c, pump, turbo and remap
Buy 2nd hand stuff and there maybe cash to spare for driver training
Old 27 October 2005, 12:25 AM
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WTF is everyone having a go at me about driver training for!!!!!!!???????

Thanks Brun, any ideas on the turbo? TD05?
Old 27 October 2005, 12:56 AM
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TD05 is often the choice turbo. I have a VF35 (STI/WR1) waiting to go on mine
Old 27 October 2005, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Ben WRX Bug-Eye
we are talking well beyond STI specifications here...
Ummm... maybe in a couple of narrow areas you are.
Old 27 October 2005, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by tath
Ummm... maybe in a couple of narrow areas you are.
Old 27 October 2005, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by v5 man
Nice one, thats much better One thing, I would have thought that a remap would take care of any turbo lag though?! Maybe Im an idiot though
The bigger it is Cliff the longer it'll take to spin up, so plenty of lag.
Old 27 October 2005, 12:40 PM
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I'd go for a front entry TD05, front mount and remap Your injectors are fine and can deliver plenty of fuel for what you need, anyone telling you different is talking out of their ****
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i'd go for:

VF34 - £470 (new)
uprated intercooler - about £400
Andy f tek3 remap - about £650

Actually that is what i went for on my my00 turbo, mapped just over a week ago at just over 1.3bar of boost and it's a massive improvement.
Old 27 October 2005, 04:36 PM
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if all you want it for is the 1/4 Cliff, you know the funny gas takes priority That way you can maintain a well set up, no lag car with a smallish turbo, and when you want the extra grunt for short bursts, whack the nitrous on job done.
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Looks like I was wrong to include the old uprated injectors in the suggested upgrades!

The couple of lads I know running uprated turbo's have uprated injectors also - sorry for the mistake Cliff - will try to avoid talking out my **** in future.

At what point do the standard injectors becoming limiting? Can't be much over 300bhp surely? Also is it advisable to run the standard injectors right up to 100% capacity? Bit like the situation with standard fuel pumps and remaps on the WRX. Should be okay or definately okay?

Hybrid TD04's (Andy F) are available if you don't like the sound of a TD05.

Regarding TMIC or FMIC. Unless your doing track days etc where the engine is under heavy load for long periods or doing high-speed runs then is it really worth spending the extra for a FMIC? I know you can get FMIC's for not a lot more than the TMIC's, but performance does vary quite a bit between the low and high end stuff. A decent FMIC would be a very big chunk of the budget. No denying they look great though.

It's all discussed in details here:
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466430
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Originally Posted by Ben WRX Bug-Eye
Looks like I was wrong to include the old uprated injectors in the suggested upgrades!
If you're running 440's they are good up to around 340bhp I think If you start going over that I think you need 550's
Old 27 October 2005, 07:55 PM
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standard bugeye injectors are 380cc, to go over 300bhp safely it will require an upgrade....and when i say safe, i mean with a small overhead, not by upping fuel pressure....
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Right, i`ve set a mark of 300bhp, Thats where i`d like to be really.

So, keep the injectors for this power? keep the standard fuel pump? or uprate both?


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