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Old 14 November 2005 | 09:23 PM
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Anyone want a what fuel debate?
Also from now on I will call the Bright button a Manettino Bob
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Noticed Mr plato was going for the **** with a hat look whilst testing the Renault/Astra....

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Noticed Mr plato was going for the **** with a hat look whilst testing the Renault/Astra....

Or is that a hat with a ****, but fair play to VBH for the "blind" driving.
Old 14 November 2005 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by s70rjw
Anyone want a what fuel debate?
Also from now on I will call the Bright button a Manettino Bob
Meant to watch this,so whats the virdict on the fuel debate then?
Old 14 November 2005 | 10:30 PM
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That hat was unbelievable! He reckoned it was for a dare. I think he went out and bought it specially. Bad choice Mr Plato.

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Old 14 November 2005 | 10:32 PM
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They put supermarket fuel BP Ultimate and Optimax in a 55 plate STI. The optimax gave it an extra 14 or so BHP over the supermarket fuel and more torque. Cant remember the exact figures, something like

Supermarket fuel- 245
Optimax - 259
or very similar figures!!

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Originally Posted by waggy doo
Meant to watch this,so whats the virdict on the fuel debate then?
In a word if you have aperformance car Optimax they used a new 06STI as a test mule and it benefitted by 5bhp
Old 14 November 2005 | 10:35 PM
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Regardless of what it was the brand new STI was over 20bhp down on the manufacturers quoted power. Even on optimax it was less that 260ps!!! thought they were supposed to be 280 out of the box.!!
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Thanks for reply's people.
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
Regardless of what it was the brand new STI was over 20bhp down on the manufacturers quoted power. Even on optimax it was less that 260ps!!! thought they were supposed to be 280 out of the box.!!
Yes, but how many miles did it have on it? If it was an 06 model; it must have been tight.

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Full results were

BHP
Optimax 249
Ultimate 248
Supermarket 235

Torque ft/lb

Optimax 258
Ultimate 248
Supermarket 232

They reset the ecu between each fuel, how quick would the ecu be able to make most of the fuel coz i thought they had to adjust over a few miles or do they adjust instantly

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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Yes, but how many miles did it have on it? If it was an 06 model; it must have been tight.

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I believe that is one of their press cars, that I've driven myself, and has an alarming amount of miles on it.

Remember the registration plate and don't buy it if you see it for sale - it's been severely thrashed by everyone.

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Typical of 5th Gear's program researchers to leave out Tesco 99RON. Why bother testing two of the three best fuels? They should have included the TOTAL Excillium stuff as well, it could be a better option than BP Ultimate for all we know.

I'm convinced Tesco 99 is better than Optimax. Anyone else agree?
Old 15 November 2005 | 12:19 AM
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dont know much about fuel but thats an unbelieveable difference. you would think the manufactuers quote would be more accurate like
Old 15 November 2005 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Anders_WR1
I'm convinced Tesco 99 is better than Optimax. Anyone else agree?
I think you might be right Even if it don't make much performance difference it is a lot cheaper than Optimax if you buy at the right garages


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Cant get Tesco 99 any where near me, when is the SW gonna get it
Old 15 November 2005 | 01:24 AM
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Blandford forum and brislington are the most SW ones....
Old 15 November 2005 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
Regardless of what it was the brand new STI was over 20bhp down on the manufacturers quoted power. Even on optimax it was less that 260ps!!! thought they were supposed to be 280 out of the box.!!
Aside from the car being tight the figure quotes was at the hub and not the fly.
Old 15 November 2005 | 08:49 AM
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If the man says 280 then it should be 280 surely even Litchfield advertise as The new STI gets the 276bhp engine with improved low down response and cleaner emissions.

Not saying I know any better than most on here, cause I know I dont, but I was a little lost by the numbers that were quoted.

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Old 15 November 2005 | 09:10 AM
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In their defence regarding ECU resetting they did say they made 5 or 6 test runs with each.
I would like to have seen supermarket SUL 97 ron tested.
Old 15 November 2005 | 09:20 AM
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i was shocked by bp ultimates figures as my wrx runs like absolute ****e on it coughing and misfiring like buggery on a non-remapped 93 wrx compared with optimax with no troubles
Old 15 November 2005 | 09:33 AM
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Wurzel

I think you'll find the power quoted was at the wheels.

Think of the units being something like 'Elephants'. The number of units is irrelevant, the difference between them is what they were trying to show.

Wish I'd known it was happening, Thor are right next door to us!

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I think the programme is repeated either today or tomorrow late at night/early morning.


With the petrol figures, even the Golf GTI was way down, and VAG cars nearly always hit the manufacturers claims. But at least I can now justifiy using Optimax to the wife, who thinks I should be claiming Tesco points instead. Bring on 99ron to all
Old 15 November 2005 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Anders_WR1
Typical of 5th Gear's program researchers to leave out Tesco 99RON. Why bother testing two of the three best fuels? They should have included the TOTAL Excillium stuff as well, it could be a better option than BP Ultimate for all we know.

I'm convinced Tesco 99 is better than Optimax. Anyone else agree?
I have been running my 05 STI on Optimax since new. Found out from this site that Brooklands Tesco has 99RON and switched in the last couple of weeks. It might be all in my head but I think pick up (torque) is greatly improved with the 99 and power delivery is much cleaner. Optimax is 99.9p per litre Tesco 99RON is 94.9p

A no brainer if ever there was one!
Old 15 November 2005 | 12:34 PM
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My 996 TT seems to run better on Tesco, been running it (& all my other cars) on Optimax for years, but recently my TT it seems a little lumpy on Optimax & not very smooth at low speeds, Tesco 99 seems to cure this.

Nothing more than gut feel but will continue to use Tesco.
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The wonders of google
http://www.greenergy.com/products/99...locations.html
Old 15 November 2005 | 01:03 PM
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Bugger all in the North East I see. Well, the whippets don't like drinkling the stuff I suppose.

Another case of North / South divide
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Been using Tesco 99 with a bottle of Millers Octane booster....with very good results
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Originally Posted by Etheridge-Bird
but fair play to VBH for the "blind" driving.
I wonder where they got the idea for that
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PH article: 99 RON



Originally Posted by Anders_WR1
Typical of 5th Gear's program researchers to leave out Tesco 99RON. Why bother testing two of the three best fuels? They should have included the TOTAL Excillium stuff as well, it could be a better option than BP Ultimate for all we know.

I'm convinced Tesco 99 is better than Optimax. Anyone else agree?


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