Well why the **** did it spit me out at slow speeds on the M11 roundabout, throw me up the embankment, buckle my wheel and smash my subframe??

 

What year is your car?

What tyres did you have on it?

What speed were you actually doing when you say slow speeds?

What were the road conditions like?

 

Incorrect steering/throttle/braking input

Sorry

Simon

 

Got to say driver error.
Sorry!

 

handeling and grip are not the same thing ... eg f1 car on oil

 

eibach lowered springs, runing on 18" technomania's wrapped in bridge's....

Say about 40 and it was cold but not iced.......

2001 bugeye....

have taken a lot harder corners, a lot faster and not a problem.
the only thing I can think of is a grease spot......

gutted..........so so gutted.......

 

crash and blame the car. lmao.

 

er, cos you're a chimp?

Scoobs are well sorted usually, and the common opinion is that you have to be a complete banana eating, armpit scratching chimp to stuff one into a hedge

 

may not be icy but could be grit .. deisel.. try that on two wheels it hurts

 

Unluckly

Subaru's have good grip but poor handling thats why just about everybody gets new springs and whiteline goodies.

 

not sure you are alowed to insult a primate like that

 

diesel on the M11 roundabout sounds about right....

 

I'm not really into nana's......but I do feel like a complete chimp......

happened infront of some of the MRC lot as well......

loaded with whiteline as well.......
just spoke to the garage.......subframe and wishbone.........could have been a lot worse.....

ok, it's the diesel's fault....

 

Sorry to hear about the damage to your car.

Diesel or black ice = likely accident regardless of what car you're driving. Probably would have happened at a lower speed had you been driving a car with less grip and traction.

Have you had any training in skid control?

And 40mph isn't exactly crawling around a roundabout! :-)

NS04

 

sounds like something slippery on the road such as oil - oil based. There is a roundabout near me close to two fuel stations, that seems to get very slippery and the only thing i can put it down to is cars filling up at the garages and then using the roundabout and fuel spilling from the vent/overfill pipe. I have seen unmerous cars on the side wioth wheels ripped off or run into each other and i have benn roud it sideways at around 15mph!!!.
It is not a fast road or otherwisedangerous by any means running through a housing estate, with speed bumps.

 

As for the hedge jumping comments, there's not alot you can do if a lorry pulls out in front of you n completely blocks the road, making you take avoiding action into a field

 

POOR HANDLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Since when? That's the first I have heard about it. I bought one recently on the strength of the handling...........Please can you explain.

 

well if mine handles poorly, i hate to think what a really bad car must be like !!

 

For a new wishbone, subframe and alloy........

a grand total of £736..........think i'm going to by a zetec

 

Don't forget a new tyre too

 

corner and for some reason.....the tyre wasn't damaged.....

 

PICNIC - Problem In Chair, Not In Car

 

Can you be sure of that though? It might look ok but it has probably damaged the structure of it I wouldn't want to find out the hard way

 

Wasn't the Hastingwood Roundabout this morning was it?

 

Summer Tyres begin not to work properly below 7C

How cold was it?

http://www.tyres-online.co.uk/techinfo/winter.asp

 

It was about 10pmish so the roads would have been slightly icey but as it's in constant use, i'm swaying towards the diesel side of things......

 

I doubt that it was diesel and the reason is simple. When you got out of the car there would have been an unmissable sweet smell; thered have been no doubt at all. Considering that you didnt make any mention of this, then Im inclined to believe that diesel on the road wasnt the cause. Its a better excuse than admitting to being crap though..... From what youve said the cause was driver over-confidence and complacency.

Subaru Impreza's dont have very good handling at all; they just have a lot of grip. Its easy to overcome the grip though, as youve found out.

 

..easier still with skinny tyres an rock hard suspension

 

Exactly, And there is a big difference betweent the two.

Scoobs only have very average suspension setups and chassis. Coupled with less than ideal balance. Thus naturally, the handling follows suit.

So, it must be treated and driven appropriately

 

From what youve said the cause was driver over-confidence and complacency.

Thats sounds a bit final.......how would there have been a smell if the point of being spat out of the bend was a good distance (over grass, embankment etc) from where I landed?

I didn't go back and smell the ground.......
or you're saying that the diesel would be stuck on my tyre and thats where the smell would be coming from?

and admitting i'm crap? you were there?