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Old 02 October 2000, 03:13 PM
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After much research, advice, many test drives and sleepless nights I have finally bought an Evo VI. I've been driving this for a few days now and yesterday a thought came to me which I can't quite explain. How can a car this fast be legal? After all, the government provide laws and legislation to protect us and for the common good - drugs are illegal 'cos they might kill you, helmets are enforced so we survive a motorbike crash, etc, etc..

How can a car that can catapult its driver to 60 mph in approx 4 seconds be legal, I find it hard to seriously justify needing a car to perform to this extent, nobody is ever in that much of a hurry. Sorry if this post is confusing, but after experiencing the roller coaster like performance of my car I find it hard to see how a car like this can be legal. I'm not saying it should be illegal, but how can a government that bans so many other things that should be subject to freedom of choice, allow us to drive such extreme transportation?

Am I talking rubbish?

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Old 02 October 2000, 03:16 PM
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martin, shut up you muppet.

your Evo is slow mate
Old 02 October 2000, 03:29 PM
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It's time to play the music...
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It's time to light the lights...
Old 02 October 2000, 03:30 PM
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Martin

Ignore JohnF - I think he is still wound up by certain other muppets - sorry members of this board.

If you drive like a nutter on the road, then you are going to end up killing yourself or someone else - regardless of what you drive.

Enjoy your car and stop worrying

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Old 02 October 2000, 03:31 PM
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It's time to get things started...
Old 02 October 2000, 03:32 PM
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You think that's fast, you should have a go in a Cavalier SRi.
Old 02 October 2000, 03:33 PM
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On the Muppet show tonight...
Old 02 October 2000, 03:33 PM
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< public > Why don't you get things started ?

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Old 02 October 2000, 03:36 PM
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On the most sensational....inspirational.....celebrational.... .muppetational......
Old 02 October 2000, 03:40 PM
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[I think you may have got the wrong end of the stick here ladies..

I'm not saying that EVO/Scoobie type cars should be illegal, but I find it so astonishing that potentially lethal vehicles (motorbikes included) are legal when so many things things that should also be down to freedom of choice, are illegal.

Don't worry, I'm not going soft.

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Old 02 October 2000, 03:41 PM
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This is what we call the MUPPET SHOW!
Old 02 October 2000, 03:44 PM
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i am for total freedom on anything as long as it doesnt cause harm to others.

strange way of putting a point across

Your EVO is still slow to me though
Old 02 October 2000, 03:48 PM
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I'll go away then..


Old 02 October 2000, 03:50 PM
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Yes, but John most things this side of a McLaren F1 are slow to you...
Old 02 October 2000, 03:53 PM
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Martin

Anything can be deadly if used recklessly - even a far lesser car than an Evo 6.

Stop philosophising and enjoy driving your car.
Old 02 October 2000, 03:54 PM
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Ok
Old 02 October 2000, 03:55 PM
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Martin, just kidding.

You have to realize that every car can get to stupid speeds in built op areas in a matter of seconds.

You can also drown your neighbour in your garden pond, or hit the mailman on the head with a freezer (if you're strong that is)

It's all about appropriate use I'd say.
Old 02 October 2000, 03:57 PM
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I agree with everything said so far, but why else would someone buy an extremely fast car other than to go fast?

Old 02 October 2000, 03:58 PM
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God forbid the day you become a member of parliament.

Old 02 October 2000, 03:58 PM
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Acording to EVO mag, only 2 production cars have a higher power/weight. McLaren F1 and Caterham R500. I can match the R500 on track, dunno about the Macca

Told you your Evo is slow LOL
Old 02 October 2000, 04:00 PM
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Think Trackday for appropriate use.

I mean, I even learned in what ways you can abuse a straw today. Yuk.
Old 02 October 2000, 04:01 PM
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Martin,

You tell us

£30,000+
Old 02 October 2000, 04:01 PM
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errmmmmmmmmmm,

hows about so you can pass traffic quickly so you are at risk less??

or maybe to use on a track day??

or maybe so the handling and brakes are safer than the average econobox???
Old 02 October 2000, 04:09 PM
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"Hello officer, no I never drive fast in my Evo, the only reason I bought it was so that I could overtake safely and stop quickly. Go fast? Me? Never!"


Old 02 October 2000, 04:45 PM
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John,
I'll soon be a member of the 400+bhp per tonne club...

In fact, by the end of this week, beginning of next - fingers crossed!
LOL
Mike R
Old 02 October 2000, 04:51 PM
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Possibly 1 of the reasons the Evo is banned in Austrailia? Well it was when i was there last year
Old 02 October 2000, 04:55 PM
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According to statistics, a lot more people die in normal cars than in fast cars....

It all depends on your views, do you want a free-for-all society where people can do what they want (capitalism bordering on anarchy) or one where the state controls every aspect of your life (socialism)?

Knives are dangerous. Electricity is dangerous. Gas is dangerous. Hell, water is dangerous if you inhale it!

How fast is fast enough? 0-60 in 6 seconds? 12 seconds? Nothing over 20mph? My Impreza is the safest car for overtaking I've ever owned. Tractors and milk floats can be dismissed in the blink of an eye.

Once they've banned fast cars, how about banning fast computers (just in case you get one fast enough to break government-only approved encryption)? Or intelligent children (anyone with an IQ over a certain level might be dangerous, so they get used as fertiliser)?

Speed doesn't kill, collisions do. Stopping cars hitting each other or pedestrians is what the govt. should be pursuing, not revenue-driven attempts to slow them down.

But we've been here before. Shame really, as I don't think you've asked a muppet question....
Old 02 October 2000, 04:56 PM
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Wow, mike is still breathing

Good news mate, see you on track soon i hope.
Old 02 October 2000, 05:04 PM
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Thanks.. I was sure I wasn't going mad. Just a basic observation really, nothing more. Then again, Evo's are slow aren't they..


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