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Old 26 November 2005, 09:31 AM
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Question Best Induction Kit?

Im getting my car re-mapped by Andy F. next month so thought I would get an induction kit installed at the same time.

Whats the best kit going?

I have an STi Type-R V5.
Old 26 November 2005, 09:52 AM
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Instead of throwing this open to the possibly poorly informed opinion on ScoobyNet; why not ask Andy Forrest what (if anything) he suggests?


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Old 26 November 2005, 06:41 PM
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Instead of throwing this open to the possibly poorly informed opinion on ScoobyNet; why not ask Andy Forrest what (if anything) he suggests?


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Just have done mate, and he suggested the APS Cold Air Kit.

Anybody know if this sounds good?
Old 26 November 2005, 07:50 PM
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for your car andy thinks the APS cold air kit is the best, it was excellent when fitted and mapped on my car
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Originally Posted by stevebt
for your car andy thinks the APS cold air kit is the best, it was excellent when fitted and mapped on my car
Cheers for that mate.

What did it sound like?
What kind of Scoob have you got?
Have any problems with it?
Where did you buy it from?

Sorry for all the questions.
Old 26 November 2005, 10:26 PM
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I bought a K&N with the bell mouth GGR type filter. It has made a definate difference to the pick up of the car. Even the wife said the car felt faster, and she hates me playing with cars

I have put induction kits on cars before and have never noticed any difference but this one deffo have done something. I got mine second hand but I think these are quite expensive when bought new.

It is a bit noisey and you can hear the dump valve now but overall it suits me. I did not oil it as there seems to be probs with the MAF and oiled fliters
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mine was on a highly modified UK99/00 impreza and i added a MRT inlet at the same time, acceleration was very noticeable
Old 26 November 2005, 11:12 PM
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where does the MRT inlet pipe go Steve? where from price etc?
Old 27 November 2005, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Tiss
where does the MRT inlet pipe go Steve? where from price etc?

the big blue pipe on the picture i sent you is the MRT inlet but they arent cheap, mine cost £270
Old 27 November 2005, 09:59 AM
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I have just taken a K & N filter off mine, the only difference I have noticed is that you cant hear the oem dumpvalve as much, and its stopped the sucking noise that you get. power feels the same, and I feel more comfortable driving it, as I know the maf is more likely to not go pop.

so if anyone wants a k&n filter let me know you can have it cheap.
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Originally Posted by shaggy1973
I have just taken a K & N filter off mine, the only difference I have noticed is that you cant hear the oem dumpvalve as much, and its stopped the sucking noise that you get. power feels the same, and I feel more comfortable driving it, as I know the maf is more likely to not go pop.

so if anyone wants a k&n filter let me know you can have it cheap.
Most of the decent Induction Kits use the K&N cone fliter. If you chnage the MAF and have it re-mapped, there will be no danger to your MAF.
Old 27 November 2005, 10:24 AM
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whats the point mate? I have seen no massive difference in the performance? I am not really interested in modding it to within an inch of its life. I am more than happy with the original subaru spec thanks anyway
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you didn't send me a picture steve?
Old 27 November 2005, 11:36 AM
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hi mate,

maybe consider a panel filter? tsl fitted a green panel filter to there 22b after tests showed it flowed better than induction kits. i know its on a new age but one works fine on the spec c in the modification thread. it might be advisable to fit a 3 port boost solenoid if using an induction kit, where its not needed with a panel filter (as told to me by bob rawle when he mapped my V6 type r, with a panel filter)

bang per buck - panel filter £40 and i'd expect the maf to last 4 years

induction kit £100+, 3 port solenoid £(can't remember but maybe £100) and i'd expect the maf to last 1 / 2 years, so thats another £100 (just my exp with induction kits on MY99/00)

and unless your going for big power will it be that much more powerful if any at all?

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i got a K&N with my RCM Induction kit well impressed sounds good to
Old 27 November 2005, 11:41 AM
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Ive been away ages and there are still threads about induction kits - cant believe it! Cant someone do a sticky on this in gen technical?!!

APS - DO NOT fit it until you are about to have the car mapped. They cause the MAF to dangerously underread and will cause bad det. Its a nice filter IMO.

Do you need it? I would say no if you sre sub 330ish bhp - will just suck in hot air (inless its an APS) and cause a nasty noise imo.

Stick with a green cotton, gave great result on my STi5.

I dynoed a MY96 and made more without the K&N cone.

MB
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Default bmc insuction kit

Hi new to this site and im after an induction kit for me 96 impreza i am lookin at the bmc type and was wondering if anyone has fitted these to imprezas and the out come i put one on my old golf and was pleasently supprised so was thinkin it should have the same affect also makes sence because of the engine bay temps
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I have an APS CAK on my MY00 and it works fine and make a whole heap of interesting noises
Old 03 February 2006, 11:09 AM
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That WILL blow your engine if you haven't had a remap

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Originally Posted by Dark Blue Mark
That WILL blow your engine if you haven't had a remap

MB
Who was that comment aimed at? I had mine remapped by Bob Rawle and it is awsome now but as I said it now makes a varied selection of interesting noises
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Originally Posted by Dark Blue Mark
That WILL blow your engine if you haven't had a remap

MB
Not really the induction kit that "causes" the blown engine though? More to do with the enhanced amount/tumble of air that can pass the MAF not being adjusted for by the ECU? Much like ramming too much boost pressure into an engine, and then blaming the turbo for allowing so much boost to be run in the event of failure?

I am sure some have this fitted and havent blown their engines?

FWIW, I have a Power Engineering Bespoke K&N jobbie, with MAF rescaled to suit by BRD. Horror stories put me of the Apexi induction kit, but TBH, I think if every single scoob with one had engine failure (remember, they were made - IIRC - before the days of mass remapped ECU's - i.e. before ECUTEK was available) how could they possibly keep on selling them?
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