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Old 24 January 2006 | 10:05 AM
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Default In gear performance times.

On the fly 50-70mph (80-112kmph) in 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th (if you have a 6 speed box). This should eliminate the driver skill variable, making for best comparison.

Also lets do 30-70mph (48-112kmph) in 3rd, 4th, or 5th.

Time yourself with a stopwatch (like on your mobile), and be honest, or use a performance monitor if you have one.

State what yr & model your car is, and if modded or not (brief details if modded). Also state what you have timed and in what gear.

Just a bit of legal fun to give an idea on the performance of different scoobies, and to revel in how quick they really are!

I'll go 1st.....

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2.1 secs.

MY93 WRX (import) saloon, standard accept centre pipe decat and induction kit.
Old 24 January 2006 | 11:10 AM
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i think my 106 does about 35 seconds. will try it when i finish work if i can find a big enough hill.....
Old 24 January 2006 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by robsw
On the fly 50-70mph (80-112kmph) in 3rd (eliminating driver skill variable).
Just a bit of legal fun to give an idea on the performance of different scoobies, and to revel in how quick they really are!
Not legal if you do it in a 30

Oh, and 1.5 not a scoob tho, they're too slow
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Anyone going to play?
Old 24 January 2006 | 10:06 PM
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Robsw,

Perhaps your stopwatch... or the finger that is pressing it needs to be calibrated.

Using proper equipment the following times were recorded in EVO so who knows!

P1 - 2.7 secs
Standard WR1 - 2.9 secs (4th)
Standard SPEC C - 2.5 secs (4th)
Standard TYPE 25 - 1.9 secs (4th)

Obviously the best comparator for a 6sp box is 4th gear (to best match 3rd in a 5sp box).

I am about to start a lot of data logging with ECUTEK's Delta Dash fairly soon, so will certainly be able to add some more information to the mix regarding my modded Spec C.

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MY00 UK spec with A/C & ICE, full trim, no passenger, 1.8 secs on Delta Dash, TD05, APS FMIC/CAK, Ecutek, 2.5" exhaust, ported OEM headers, aftermarket uppipe, fuel pump, 550cc injectors, NF octane booster.

I've seen a log of a road spec 2.5 Scooby that does it in 1.3 secs, 3rd gear is like a P1 so a bit shorter though.

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Old 24 January 2006 | 11:37 PM
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why not try 30-70 in top gear ?should sort the men from the boys i suspect
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Robsw,

Perhaps your stopwatch... or the finger that is pressing it needs to be calibrated.

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Shaun,

I will try it again but I did try several attempts to try and get an accurate figure. It may be due to my gearbox as it seems to have rather short gearing, redline (just over 7000rpm) in 2nd is at 55mph, and redline in 3rd is at 85mph.

Some interesting information so far, most appreciated, thankyou.

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Originally Posted by ninjacost
why not try 30-70 in top gear ?should sort the men from the boys i suspect
Good idea, once we have some useful data on 50-70mph in third, I will start another thread to cover 30-70 in 4th gear.
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Don't forget to get some times today if you can!
Old 25 January 2006 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ninjacost
why not try 30-70 in top gear ?should sort the men from the boys i suspect
Top gear at 30mph? Why?
Old 25 January 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
Top gear at 30mph? Why?
pslewis could provide the time for 10mph to 30mph in top gear,I'm sure...
Old 25 January 2006 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
Top gear at 30mph? Why?
How about 5th Gear?
Old 25 January 2006 | 02:42 PM
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2.47 (averaged over 3 runs).
MY95 WRX with only Fujitsubo Legalis catback and HKS filter.
I'm impressed with your time, robsw. Must remove my cat!!!!
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30-70 5.3 seconds
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can we have a poll on 'how big is my dad'
Old 25 January 2006 | 05:43 PM
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MY95 UK Saloon, decat and remap = 2.53secs - measured with AP22 performance meter.
Old 25 January 2006 | 07:33 PM
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Done a few in gear times today not sure if good or not


1/50-70 in 3rd 1.6sec
2/50-70 in 4th 2.8 secs
3/50-70 in 6th 4.1 secs
4/30-70 in 6th 9.9 secs


spec c ra with milltek ,remap ,kn panel filter,rcm pulleysps was 2 up!

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Old 25 January 2006 | 11:46 PM
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I've modified the 1st post in this thread so please read again! Basically opening things up a bit.

Thanks to everyone who has participated so far. It is my last night in work tonight so I will be going out on Friday to do some timing in my MY93wrx.
I will attempt to measure the time taken for the following:
1/ 30-70mph in 3rd gear.
2/ 30-70mph in 4th gear.
3/ 50-70mph in 3rd gear.
4/ 50-70mph in 4th gear.
5/ 50-70mph in 5th gear.

On Saturday I will do the same in my old man's skyline gtst, for comparison against a different performance car! Of course I will post all the results once I have them!
Old 25 January 2006 | 11:56 PM
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Cool, I'll look forward to seeing the GTSt's times, that was my next choice....
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Dont see the point in this excercise tbh.

Results will be highly inaccurate due to:

1. human finger on a Casio watch
2. Speedo inaccuracy - moreso with with no std wheel/tyre sizes.
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3. Different gear ratios
Old 26 January 2006 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
3. Different gear ratios

How's that going to make the times inaccurate
Old 26 January 2006 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by theotherphil
How's that going to make the times inaccurate
It makes it inaccurate for the sake of comparison, with different models having different ratios.

Obviously points 1 and 2 are the main reasons for the inaccuracies in this 'test'.
Old 26 January 2006 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
It makes it inaccurate for the sake of comparison, with different models having different ratios.

Obviously points 1 and 2 are the main reasons for the inaccuracies in this 'test'.
Anyone with a performance meter or delta dash should be able to provide some fairly accurate figures. For those who don't will be better off timing bigger differences in speed in a lower gear, for example 30-70mph in 4th gear.
The different ratios do not matter, as this is just a factor affecting how quick a car will accelerate, and helps explain why slightly lower powered cars can out accelerate some higher powered cars with taller gearing, at lower speeds. It is similar to differences in weight across different models. That is why it is important to state what model, if standard or not, and what gear is being used.
Agreed the main inaccuracy is the finger on the stop watch, I suggest timing several runs until one is satisfied that the time is as accurate as it can be.
Despite the inaccuraces I am sure a few trends should arise. Also the point about the speedo shouldn't affect things too much, as it will still give a good indication of the displacement of 20 miles for 50-70mph, and 40 for 30-70.

It is not a competition, just a bit of fun and something to do, so get your stopwatch out and contribute some times!

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copied from other thread:
Just got the following:
30-70 thru gears 5.11
30-70 3rd 5.8
0-60 5.7 (pleased with that, though obviously could shave a bit off at the expense of the clutch)

93 WRX, Z4, induction kit (apr 260ps)

Will update once I have a decat next month. I think it's worth having thes stats posted for various cars / upgrades, as a real world comparison
Old 27 January 2006 | 10:25 PM
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Managed to get some times in today (averaged over 3/4 runs)

30-70mph in 3rd 5.2secs
30-70mph in 4th 8.4secs
50-70mph in 3rd 2.3secs
50-70mph in 4th 3.5secs

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Old 28 January 2006 | 12:43 AM
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FWIW 30-70 through gears 4.6sec -/+ .2sec (averaged over many many runs) used it as a bench mark before and after mods. (before 5.6sec).

05 WRX decat/green/sti 8 tmic & scoop/PRF7b's/BRD remap/1.4bar at 3300rpm etc...!

Maybe not very scientific (sp?) but a good bit of fun..!

60-100 a good one too... ~6.5..
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More tests to do then......
Yup, hit the nail on the head, jasonius. Not too scientific, but always interesting.
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