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Old 24 February 2006, 01:52 PM
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Does anyone know anywhere good and cheap in essex that can powder coat my wheels anthracite (probably spelt wrong!) they are currently gold but am considering changing the colour

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Old 24 February 2006, 03:51 PM
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Renzland Forge Marks Tey - just off the A12 (Colchester bound) I believe still do powder coating wheels. 01206 210212.

Can't comment on price and quality as I have not been there for several years.
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Originally Posted by Fur
Does anyone know anywhere good and cheap in essex that can powder coat my wheels anthracite (probably spelt wrong!) they are currently gold but am considering changing the colour

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I had mine changed from gold to Anthracite but now they are appearing a little green Apparently it is caused by the curing process not going well. Am having them re-done FOC. Not Essex way though: just a cautionary tale.
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Heard story's about powder coating affecting the alloy. Not the powder coating itself but the curing temperatures are much higher 200 deg C. Not really sure how much truth in it but heard it said more than a few times....
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i had mine powder coated from gold to red its well worth getting done you wont need wheel cleaner again as the dust comes of with a sponge and hot water
Old 24 February 2006, 06:25 PM
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cheers all
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Originally Posted by Dave_68
Heard story's about powder coating affecting the alloy. Not the powder coating itself but the curing temperatures are much higher 200 deg C. Not really sure how much truth in it but heard it said more than a few times....

Powder coated wheels warning

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Alloy wheels should NOT be powder coated - unless they can be done with a special, low cure temp powder coating process.

Regular powder coating has a cure temp in excess of 325F, but alloy wheels should NEVER be subjected to temps over 275F, as the crystaline structure of the metal will be altered, making it less strong and more brittle than it was before.

Only consider it if your powder coated can satisfy you that he is experienced with coating wheels, and will use a low temp method. If you do any sort of competiton like open track, obtain documented proof like an itemized receipt that cleary shows that the wheels have been coated correctly. Organizations like The Drivers Edge will not let you on the track if they suspect you have powder coated alloy wheels and no documentation to prove it was done correctly.

Wheel manufacturers use a low temp process, so powder coated wheels that come standard on your car are OK.
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Old 25 February 2006, 11:10 AM
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maybe ill stick with the gold then ;-)
Old 25 February 2006, 04:25 PM
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Just have them done in usual car paint & lacquer, probably not that much difference in price anyway....
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If you want the colour to last, don't even think of any kind of car paint. It's a bodge. Powder coating is the only option for wheels TBH. I don't know where this stuff about powder coating damaging wheels comes from, I've never heard of such a thing.

I had a set of OZ Chrono Evos powder coated in anthracite and they looked totally mint, no problems at all and they had some hard use without a scratch or blemish, frag strip, track use, autobahn, on and off for maintenance of the car several times a week etc.

I can tell you one place to avoid for sure - Rochford Tyres near Southend. I have no hesitation in saying they are crooks and their staff do the shoddiest job they can get away with and charge the earth. When the 'rattle can' job they did on my rims flaked off just by scratching it with my thumbnail, they claimed that 'that is what powder coat is' and 'if it's not good enough there's nothing we can do about it'.

The boy who did the job lied through his teeth about it the whole time, making out it was my fault for 'mistreating them' and claimed that I must have been 'dropping tools on them'. The boss constantly hid from me, pretending to be busy and wouldn't come out to face the music, sending the Saturday boy out to do his talking for him. It was only two days before I took court action that they refunded me the entire cost without so much as an apology.

Crooks.

I CAN recommend thoroughly a place called Aerocoat in St Olaves, Norfolk, but that's probably a bit of a way for you. They do loads of custom car powdercoating and have an incredible colour range, decent prices too.
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Just interested but why would you say car paint is a bodge?
Old 26 February 2006, 09:52 AM
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http://www.aerocoat.net/EnterTitleWH...DERCOATING.htm



I had some bikes bit done by these guys and they are
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thansk for the replies, ill prob ask how much they cahrge, wicked wheels wanted 85.00 per wheel! i do actually like the gold so theres no way id consider paying that much
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Sinclaire of London Charge £55 a wheel (I think) I had quite a lot of work done there when I had my Elise. There are a Lotus specialist but work on all makes. First class quality & service, give them a try...There in Romford BTW

http://www.lotusrepairs.com/
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Originally Posted by Fur
thansk for the replies, ill prob ask how much they cahrge, wicked wheels wanted 85.00 per wheel! i do actually like the gold so theres no way id consider paying that much
£85 per wheel!!! holy smoke Batman! I got all 4 of mine for £117.50 and the finish is amazing - i'd recommend the place - Bettablast but it's up here in the North East, sorry fella.
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even with the petrol it would still be cheaper

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£85 per wheel!!! holy smoke Batman! I got all 4 of mine for £117.50 and the finish is amazing - i'd recommend the place - Bettablast but it's up here in the North East, sorry fella.
Old 26 February 2006, 04:35 PM
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wicked wheels are suppose to be **** they dont even take the tyre off. i think mine cost about 150-160 for 4 wheels to be refurbished and changed from gold to red and they take the tyres off but it was an all day job. there near beccles so it could be a fair trip for you but there a few from scooby city who have used them and my wheels are like brand new ones now

i think there called bbcs in beccles
Old 26 February 2006, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by catalunya199again
wicked wheels are suppose to be **** they dont even take the tyre off. i think mine cost about 150-160 for 4 wheels to be refurbished and changed from gold to red and they take the tyres off but it was an all day job. there near beccles so it could be a fair trip for you but there a few from scooby city who have used them and my wheels are like brand new ones now

i think there called bbcs in beccles
i think they would have to take the tyres off.....ive powder coated loads of alloys on the side at work for mates etc and never left the tyres on, although it depends if the wheels were blasted first to remove the old paint,which they should have been to ensure the best finish/adhesion of the powder.plus the fact that the grit from blasting proberly wouldnt do the seal the round the rim any good, then theres the heat from blasting/powdering..
thats my 10ps worth.
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Bournes Powder Coating based in Birmingham charge £15 per wheel.
They are alot further than the rest but at least you will get an idea of the price difference depending on which coaters you use.
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Dave_68 - Sorry mate, didn't mean it to sound like a comment against you because of what you'd said... :-)

But basically the wheels of a car are just about the hardest working 'cosmetic' component that you see on a car. Millions of revolutions over a lifetime of use, subject to forces in every direction, clamped with 100 Nm of torque against the hub with only 4 or 5 tapered nuts, kerbed every time the wife/gf takes it out (only joking, ladies!), covered in brake dust, salt, filthy water, road ****; pumelled by grit, gravel etc. A standard automotive paint finish will simply not stand up to it. Look at the front of any car that's done a decent mileage. Doesn't matter how good the paint is, you get stonechips - so how's a alloy wheel refurb centre with a little spray booth out the back going to do any better? The paint may look ok for a while, but eventually it will flake, chip, crack and dull. Could be weeks, could be months, could be years if you're careful.

It just seems to me that if you're going to the trouble to colour your wheels how you want them, it pays to do the job properly and have them powder coated. Go in any good powder coaters and you will find that a lot of the work they do is wheels and other things that need to take a battering.
Old 26 February 2006, 06:23 PM
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No probs silent running I was / am interested becasue I used to work in a paint shop which painted both wet coat & powdercoat finishes. mainly involved in testing the durability as well as the finish quality. The adhesion will vary greatly depending on the paint used & the application method. I'm not hugely techincal on the subject but wet coat polyurethane paint provided better adhesion than a powder. Also the colour coat would be a lot thinner than the lacquer, something like 50 microns for the colour and 250 for the lacquer, whereas you'd only have 1 coat for powder...The powder. Going back a way but I'm pretty sure the BS standard for paint adhesion was less stringent for powder than a wet coat. I'm not generally talking car paint as that wasn't the business but a lot of the sprayers would do a lot of car parts (wheels included) & they never powdercoated them.
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Yes I'm sure there are painters who could do a damn fine job on it. But I think there's less to go wrong with a powder coat, and when you see a good powder coat job (see that Aerocoat link above) and see them smashing two powder coated scaff poles together with hardly a mark...it's just totally the right thing for the job.
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