decat questions
#1
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Blackburn
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Hi i have a my93 wrx import i was wondering how much bhp would increase by fitting a decat i have been told it has 2 cats on it is this right?????
Should i change both?????
Also how hard is it to fit???????
And does anyone have any pics of one?????
What is the downsides in having it on a car????????
Thanx.
Should i change both?????
Also how hard is it to fit???????
And does anyone have any pics of one?????
What is the downsides in having it on a car????????
Thanx.
#2
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: In a V6 Mercedes
Posts: 2,327
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by zedf
Hi i have a my93 wrx import i was wondering how much bhp would increase by fitting a decat i have been told it has 2 cats on it is this right?????
Should i change both?????
Also how hard is it to fit???????
And does anyone have any pics of one?????
What is the downsides in having it on a car????????
Thanx.
Should i change both?????
Also how hard is it to fit???????
And does anyone have any pics of one?????
What is the downsides in having it on a car????????
Thanx.
The increase varies - I have seen quotes of 40BHP but I'm not sure
Should I change both? - For maximum gains yes
How hard is it to fit - It's a garage job
Any pics of one - No !
Downsides - you will fail an emmisions test with a full decat, but that said..
your car is an early import so may not be recorded.
Rob
#4
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SOLD - DIESEL MAN NOW...
Posts: 903
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I thought it was only the UK cars that had 2 cats? I have pictures of the standard mid section if you want. I am unable to post them on here - too much of a spaz to use photobucket!!!
stephen.pope30@ntlworld.com if you want some pics.
stephen.pope30@ntlworld.com if you want some pics.
#5
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Eastbourne
Posts: 686
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/icons/icon1.gif)
hi ive decated my centre section and planing on doing the down pipe tomorrow if my heat wrap comes in the post .I can take pics of the original pipes if you want
#6
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 280
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/icons/icon1.gif)
As I understand it, the japanese classic imprezas only have 1 cat and that's in the downpipe. The bulge in the centre pipe is a silencer, not a cat.
The main power gains come from de-cating the downpipe.
In theory it's simple to fit - just 5 bolts to undo. In reality, the bolts are likely rusted on and I've heard can be a complete nightmare to undo. I'm going to pay Hayward and Scott £75 to fit mine.
bhp increase - without a remap I don't think you'll see that much - I'd say 10-15bhp for a full decat. I've got a Type R and I'd expect if I got a full decat AND remap I'd gain 30-40bhp - most of which would come from the remap, not the decat.
The main power gains come from de-cating the downpipe.
In theory it's simple to fit - just 5 bolts to undo. In reality, the bolts are likely rusted on and I've heard can be a complete nightmare to undo. I'm going to pay Hayward and Scott £75 to fit mine.
bhp increase - without a remap I don't think you'll see that much - I'd say 10-15bhp for a full decat. I've got a Type R and I'd expect if I got a full decat AND remap I'd gain 30-40bhp - most of which would come from the remap, not the decat.
#7
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: In a V6 Mercedes
Posts: 2,327
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by rmtypeR
As I understand it, the japanese classic imprezas only have 1 cat and that's in the downpipe. The bulge in the centre pipe is a silencer, not a cat.
The main power gains come from de-cating the downpipe.
In theory it's simple to fit - just 5 bolts to undo. In reality, the bolts are likely rusted on and I've heard can be a complete nightmare to undo. I'm going to pay Hayward and Scott £75 to fit mine.
bhp increase - without a remap I don't think you'll see that much - I'd say 10-15bhp for a full decat. I've got a Type R and I'd expect if I got a full decat AND remap I'd gain 30-40bhp - most of which would come from the remap, not the decat.
The main power gains come from de-cating the downpipe.
In theory it's simple to fit - just 5 bolts to undo. In reality, the bolts are likely rusted on and I've heard can be a complete nightmare to undo. I'm going to pay Hayward and Scott £75 to fit mine.
bhp increase - without a remap I don't think you'll see that much - I'd say 10-15bhp for a full decat. I've got a Type R and I'd expect if I got a full decat AND remap I'd gain 30-40bhp - most of which would come from the remap, not the decat.
![Big Grin](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Rob
Trending Topics
#10
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Blackburn
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Email sent to Stephen Pope.
hamyam can you get the pics for me mate.
So some people are saying the wrx jap imports have 2 cats and some say 1 can someone confirm this who has either changed both or seen both.
Also does the cats make a difference to the sound of the car does it get louder?????
Thanx.
hamyam can you get the pics for me mate.
So some people are saying the wrx jap imports have 2 cats and some say 1 can someone confirm this who has either changed both or seen both.
Also does the cats make a difference to the sound of the car does it get louder?????
Thanx.
#11
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: In a V6 Mercedes
Posts: 2,327
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by zedf
Email sent to Stephen Pope.
hamyam can you get the pics for me mate.
So some people are saying the wrx jap imports have 2 cats and some say 1 can someone confirm this who has either changed both or seen both.
Also does the cats make a difference to the sound of the car does it get louder?????
Thanx.
hamyam can you get the pics for me mate.
So some people are saying the wrx jap imports have 2 cats and some say 1 can someone confirm this who has either changed both or seen both.
Also does the cats make a difference to the sound of the car does it get louder?????
Thanx.
the noise will increase.
You'll notice more of a burble and it may even spit flames, nice !!
![Big Grin](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Rob
#12
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SOLD - DIESEL MAN NOW...
Posts: 903
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Cool](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/icons/icon6.gif)
Originally Posted by scoobfan
Yes, not only do the cats reduce emmisions they also act as resonators, so
the noise will increase.
You'll notice more of a burble and it may even spit flames, nice !!
Rob
the noise will increase.
You'll notice more of a burble and it may even spit flames, nice !!
![Big Grin](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Rob
#17
![Default](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/icons/icon1.gif)
i spent 4 hours trying to decat MY00 today and still have to finish it in the morning ffs. Would def not recomend this to a novice. Took hours just to get the heat guard off the turbo. Only sheared off 1 nut but managed to cut my arms to pieces in the engine bay. Lots of swear words to!!!
#19
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: In a V6 Mercedes
Posts: 2,327
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by pslewis
It will make it louder
Car has been mapped for CATS in place
Doubt if it gives much extra BHP - its a placebo effect
Pete
Car has been mapped for CATS in place
Doubt if it gives much extra BHP - its a placebo effect
Pete
Rob
#20
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Bridgend, S Wales
Posts: 2,293
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/icons/icon1.gif)
When I bought my MY00 a month ago, came with a dyno printout for 215.5bhp - standard apart from Magnex backbox and resonated centre decat.
I replaced the front downpipe with a Ninja Sports Cat, and changed the filter to a JR panel filter.
Powerstation last Saturday for remap:
before - 230bhp
after - 272bhp.
So the downpipe and filter released 15bhp (but the previous dyno sheet from a different place, so not an accurate comparison just approximate).
Remap released another 42bhp (Tek3).
Also, from looking at the dyno results on Scoobynet, Powerstation seem to have lower results than everywhere else. So either they are more accurate, or more conservative than the others - who knows.
I replaced the front downpipe with a Ninja Sports Cat, and changed the filter to a JR panel filter.
Powerstation last Saturday for remap:
before - 230bhp
after - 272bhp.
So the downpipe and filter released 15bhp (but the previous dyno sheet from a different place, so not an accurate comparison just approximate).
Remap released another 42bhp (Tek3).
Also, from looking at the dyno results on Scoobynet, Powerstation seem to have lower results than everywhere else. So either they are more accurate, or more conservative than the others - who knows.
#21
![Default](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by StiX
When I bought my MY00 a month ago, came with a dyno printout for 215.5bhp - standard apart from Magnex backbox and resonated centre decat.
I replaced the front downpipe with a Ninja Sports Cat, and changed the filter to a JR panel filter.
Powerstation last Saturday for remap:
before - 230bhp
after - 272bhp.
So the downpipe and filter released 15bhp (but the previous dyno sheet from a different place, so not an accurate comparison just approximate).
Remap released another 42bhp (Tek3).
Also, from looking at the dyno results on Scoobynet, Powerstation seem to have lower results than everywhere else. So either they are more accurate, or more conservative than the others - who knows.
I replaced the front downpipe with a Ninja Sports Cat, and changed the filter to a JR panel filter.
Powerstation last Saturday for remap:
before - 230bhp
after - 272bhp.
So the downpipe and filter released 15bhp (but the previous dyno sheet from a different place, so not an accurate comparison just approximate).
Remap released another 42bhp (Tek3).
Also, from looking at the dyno results on Scoobynet, Powerstation seem to have lower results than everywhere else. So either they are more accurate, or more conservative than the others - who knows.
#22
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Bridgend, S Wales
Posts: 2,293
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by sharpydoo
i finished decating MY00 today, car is now VERY loud with afterburner vortex. Also there is a faint burning smell (plasticy) could this be anything to worry about?
My last subaru was a MY95 with full Ninja, and that was a fair bit louder than the Magnex I have now.
Not sure about the smell though?
#23
![Default](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by StiX
Afterburner are perhaps one of the loudest - are you saying you think its unnaturally loud, as if something is wrong, or just you are surprised as to the difference?
My last subaru was a MY95 with full Ninja, and that was a fair bit louder than the Magnex I have now.
Not sure about the smell though?
My last subaru was a MY95 with full Ninja, and that was a fair bit louder than the Magnex I have now.
Not sure about the smell though?
The smell came into the car after about a mile of driving, then the smell went after a few mins, when i stopped the car i popped the bonnet and could smell like a plactic burning smell. I had to modify the heat sheild to get it to fit over the new pipe, hope this hasnt caused a prob :S
Last edited by sharpydoo; 09 March 2006 at 08:12 PM.
#24
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
![Default](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/icons/icon1.gif)
you always get a funny smell from fitting a new exhaust part. just had mine done as well and it lasted a couple of miles when at full temp then went away.
am considering putting the standard dv back on to reduce the risk of popping flames. don't want any wanted attention from mr policeman!!!
am considering putting the standard dv back on to reduce the risk of popping flames. don't want any wanted attention from mr policeman!!!
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
fatboy_coach
General Technical
15
18 June 2016 03:48 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
28
28 December 2015 11:07 PM
Brzoza
Engine Management and ECU Remapping
1
02 October 2015 05:26 PM