AWD Skillz

Hi there i currently own a 94 Punto GT Turbo modified sensibly and professionally to 202BHP with 205lbft of tourque



Im looking @ selling up and buying a 98 R Reg UK Spec Scooby.

Its a Turbo 2000 AWD model with Leather Recaros.
The guy told me its completely STD bar a HKS boost gauge and a cat back exhaust system, running STD boost which he says is about 1.0 bar? He said to me also these run slightly smaller turbo's then their Jap cousins to minimise the lag issue.

Can anyone fill me inon some much needed info basic and detailed and also if £6k is overpriced for said vehicle?

Bubba po

Yes, it's about £1000 to £1500 overpriced, depending on mileage and condition.

Brun

£6k is too much IHO
Try go for an MY99 with the phase 2 engine, 4 pots, and one or two other things for similar money

The Chief

Dpends on mileage whether its worth 6k or not it seems slighly over priced for an R reg, but it is dependent on condition.

A UK vehicle is better imo as they do not have to be remapped to run on UK fuel.

I would say an R reg would be worth closer to 5k

a UK car runs a TD04 turbo which are less tunable than the TD05 which limit them to around 280bhp'ish but still make a rapid road car.

check out the classifieds on here to see if you can get a better deal

AWD Skillz

Cheers guys, whats the STD boost like on the Scoob's?

Does it hit full boost and hold or does it tail off in STD guise like a PGT?

Oh and mileage i think he said was 58k and its pretty mint i had a look over it

Bubba po

I thought that the '98 and earlier UK models used a larger turbo than the '99- '00 models.

The Chief

Mine tails off at between 5500 and 6000 - absolutely waste of tiem revving it past that

check this out 6K - seems a good un

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=514518


Bubba Po - not sure but i know the imports definitely had the TD05

Brun

The MY99 onwards is a TD04 and the MY94-97 is a TD05, not sure about the 98 tho

The Chief

Mine kicks in at 2500rpm and comes on strong at 3000rpm full belt up to 5500rpm - having said that mine is remapped with a full decat and filter etc. and it really makes a difference to how hard it spools up.

Thanks to Mr Forrest for that

AWD Skillz

LOL mine would fall inbetween.

Thanks for all the info so far people.

I dunno if any of you have experinces of seriously tuned PGT but mine is an animal keeps up with plenty of Scoobs.

Holds 21psi from 4k to the redline running a T25 hybrid and Piper cams along with loads of other bits hehe. Std they hit full boost @ 3k peaking at 1.4bar for a split second then settle @ 0.8 to about 6.5k

So Subarus sound pretty similar in that aspect, do they hold boost the same though? I mean does it hit 1 bar and stay or is there an overboost i assume most of you guys on here run an MBC or an EBC and run higher boost?

Bubba po

Sounds like yours is very modified to get where it is. With a standard scoob, there's plenty more power to go at with modding.

You mad, impetuous fool.

The Chief

I couldn't tell you mate - but compared to a lot of the monsters on here mine is very lightly modded but i still give an E46 M3 a run for its money the other week, afterwards i thought, that remap was worth every penny

AWD Skillz

I like your style, yes i am mad but hey arent we all to a degree.

Nothing is more pleaseing than being stuck on a 4 ltr Jags **** in an L reg punto and them wondering why on earth they cant shift you.

If anyone is intrested here is the for sale Advert

http://www.puntosportsclub.co.uk/for...018#post553018

omranyk

get a fiat coupe 20VT, u will have alot of fun thru...

New_scooby_04

iTrader: (4)

The TD04 comes on song early mate and -when remapped- are usually set to peak about 1.25-1.3 bar (you can be up to full around the mid 2k rpm). However, it runs inefficiently at higher boost levels at higher RPM, thus the boost has to be backed off, which might make the car feel a bit flat higher up. You'll need a bigger turbo if you want it to really pull all the way to the redline as you're used to, this does come at the expense of a higher boost threshold and more lag though- not much if you make the right choice and have appropriate supporting mods.

Ns04

scoobynutta555

Didn't realise good examples of classics were so cheap! Just had a look on autotrader and found some very nice classics, so cheap! Might get one for the winter

AWD Skillz

Any why would i want one of those?

You assume cos i drive a Fiat i want another? I have driven one and didnt like the handling or stopping and the power delivery is far too refined.

Am i allowed a Subaru please

Thanks for the help so far guys, im looking into more and more stuff today, contacted the guy again, more info is its got a Cat 1 alarm/imob, Tracker, Hayward and Scott Cat Back, HKS Boost & Oil Temp gauges, Gunmetal Grey
17's.

AWD Skillz

Very helfpful that is as well thanks.

I am used to high up power yes but at the expense of waiting till circa 4k to hit full boost I rarely took mine past 6.5k anyway so the Scoob may be right up my street.

So in STD UK guise im to expect quite big boost pressure at low RPMS.

A remap on the STD turbo will acheive what power output? Is there anything else needed as it has the exhaust done already ... Thanks

StiX

iTrader: (4)

Have a look at my remap session:

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...=492944&page=4

(Post 106)

Mods listed there also.

W-Reg UK Turbo bought for £5k (95k miles on though), may put the price of that R-Reg in perspective even though it has less miles.


If you did buy that R-Reg, looks like you would need a downpipe, replacement panel filter and then a remap.

Remap wouldn't be cheap as you couldn't Ecutek it - thats only for 99 models on. You would need to got the Apexi route which is about £700.


To get to 270-280bhp assuming you bought products new:

downpipe £2-300
panel filter £30-40
Apexi power FC and remap £700.


So basically £7k inc. car price.

For that money you could buy a sorted 99-00 imo?

StiX

iTrader: (4)

Like this for e.g.:

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=515100

£6k, massive mods list and 300bhp.

And I noticed you have already posted a q on this!:

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=514518

New_scooby_04

iTrader: (4)

Nice spotting mate!!

To the poster, I'd be looking very hard at this one; it's got pretty much all you'll need! Remapped Scoobies on a std TD04 with supporting exhaust mods rarely make much more than 280bhp and similar torque (which still makes for a very rapid car in real world driving) but this one has a hybrid TD04 from Andy F: it combines a low spool threshold and very little lag with a better top end.

Ns04

AWD Skillz

Cheers guys i like the look of both of those, the car has to be UK spec so these 2 come up trumps in both cases.

Ideally looking to spend top top end 6k pref a bit lower but think i may go for one with more done to it, makes sense doesnt it.

StiX

iTrader: (4)

Yes, as long as they are decent mods well done.

Q: Why does it have to be a UK?

If its insurance, don't forget a list of mods as long as your arm is going to up the insurance a fair bit - maybe by more than it would have cost to insure a standard WRX/STi?

Maz

iTrader: (34)

When Subaru facelifted the Impreza in 97 the turbo was also changed to td04. Therefore all p reg cars onwards should have td04 turbos.