Eagle F1 or Toyo Proxes
12 October 2006, 04:52 PM
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Eagle F1 or Toyo Proxes
Afternoon people.
I'm replacing tyres and I just wanna know if you reckon I should opt for the Goodyear Eagle F1s or Toyo Proxes T1R?
Any advice would be appreciated
I'm replacing tyres and I just wanna know if you reckon I should opt for the Goodyear Eagle F1s or Toyo Proxes T1R?
Any advice would be appreciated
12 October 2006, 05:20 PM
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Nothing wrong with either, all i will say is have just put 2 new eagle F1's on the front to compliment the good condition Bridgstone Potenzas on the rear and on a wet roundabout the front just stick while the back slides, quite incredable.
12 October 2006, 05:49 PM
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Never had a problem with either, but i always seem to end up withToyo's cause they are cheaper!!
Although i do find the sidewalls on the F1's a bit on the soft side, makes the front of the car feel less planted and makes the whole car feel softer
Although i do find the sidewalls on the F1's a bit on the soft side, makes the front of the car feel less planted and makes the whole car feel softer
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12 October 2006, 06:13 PM
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If it was me i'd go for toyo's having had eagle f1s befor these there is not much between them it just came down to cost. i got just over 10k out of the f1's befor puting on the toyos.
12 October 2006, 06:38 PM
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F1's anyday of the week, Had just under 25k out of the last set and they were still very sticky even though the cotton was showing!!!!! Had three sets in the Past, have Toyo's at the moment as came with the wheels on a group buy, There okay but don't seem to clear standing water on the motorway as well as the F1's did.
12 October 2006, 09:02 PM
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Toyo T1-R's are the choice, on a 215/40/17, the GSD3's will split and crack on the inner tyre wall (effects front tyres only) as said above tyre walls on the Goodyears are too soft and that can have some serious consequencies.
As I have found out!
Goodyear admitted there was a problem and refunded me 60% of the retail cost, which was not bad.
Oh, and this happened on 2 sets, not just a 'bad batch' as I was told the 1st time it happened.
As I have found out!
Goodyear admitted there was a problem and refunded me 60% of the retail cost, which was not bad.
Oh, and this happened on 2 sets, not just a 'bad batch' as I was told the 1st time it happened.
12 October 2006, 09:23 PM
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having had both F1's and t1-s's (though the t1-r's are meant to be better) it has to be f1's by a mile. You won't have a problems with cracking/splitting etc as long as you get y rated tyres
12 October 2006, 09:56 PM
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Another vote for the F1 GSD3 XL, the stiffer sidewall, is a transformation over the standard load rating F1 - I think theyre rated 91 for load. The standard F1 is 87 from memory. And I definately wouldnt mix them with any other tyres on a WRX (tut tut CT) - tail slides are fun when youre trying to do them but not so much fun when they happen unexpectedly!
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12 October 2006, 11:14 PM
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http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...cingwheels.jpg
Toyos do the job for me Loads of grip in the wet, even when you want it to slide.
Toyos do the job for me
Loads of grip in the wet, even when you want it to slide.
12 October 2006, 11:28 PM
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Onan,
I looked into this last week. Did a fairly lengthy search.
As has been said, Goodyears are one of the best wet weather tyres there is.
However, some Scooby owners have found problems with sidewalls cracking and shoulders wearing too quickly. This could down to folk not buying a high enough load rating (87 or more is required).
Because I thought there was a risk of premature wear I decided to try something else.
Toyo T1R's are excellent in the wet, good in the dry and have strengthened sidewalls, so they shouldn't suffer from the same problems as the Goodyears.
I went for the Toyos. Why take a risk ?
Andy
PS If you do a search you'll find that driver's that have had both have found the Toyo T1R's do be vastly superior in the wet to the T1S, so it would be unfair to base a decision on the S.
I looked into this last week. Did a fairly lengthy search.
As has been said, Goodyears are one of the best wet weather tyres there is.
However, some Scooby owners have found problems with sidewalls cracking and shoulders wearing too quickly. This could down to folk not buying a high enough load rating (87 or more is required).
Because I thought there was a risk of premature wear I decided to try something else.
Toyo T1R's are excellent in the wet, good in the dry and have strengthened sidewalls, so they shouldn't suffer from the same problems as the Goodyears.
I went for the Toyos. Why take a risk ?
Andy
PS If you do a search you'll find that driver's that have had both have found the Toyo T1R's do be vastly superior in the wet to the T1S, so it would be unfair to base a decision on the S.
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13 October 2006, 09:05 AM
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Goodyear's are not available in the XL in 215/40 17", so you don't really have a choice, I've just been in this situation and have opted for the T-1R's (had T1-S's before - found them very good). I personally didn't want to put myself in a position fitting tyres with the incorrect load rating, having a prang (if the walls split) and either being killed or the insurance not paying out.
feel free to disagree with the above..
Ian
feel free to disagree with the above..
Ian
16 October 2006, 01:37 PM
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I've used all 3 types - T1S, T1R & F1's and found all of them to be good tyres. (all on 17")
Of those the T1Rs have good grip (nice progressive breakaway & good wet weather) plus good mileage expectancy with strong enough side walls.
I currently have F1's which also have good grip, but cant comment on milage yet. As said, with F1's you should definately go for the higher load rating. 93Y is good but 97Y is better. Even with the stiffer 97Y tyres though there is still a fair bit of flex in the side wall which you notice on conering but more so over speedhumps...
Of those the T1Rs have good grip (nice progressive breakaway & good wet weather) plus good mileage expectancy with strong enough side walls.
I currently have F1's which also have good grip, but cant comment on milage yet. As said, with F1's you should definately go for the higher load rating. 93Y is good but 97Y is better. Even with the stiffer 97Y tyres though there is still a fair bit of flex in the side wall which you notice on conering but more so over speedhumps...
16 October 2006, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzy
nice progressive breakaway.
P.s I got 18" T1R's and all I can say is they stick like spunk to bedsheets!!
16 October 2006, 07:05 PM
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nice progressive breakaway.
It means when he puts them just over the limit of their grip when cornering -they loose grip progressively. Which is what the difference between a good set up and a bad one. Its a bit worrying that you dont understand that seeing as you are driving a very quick bit of Kit!!!?????????????
Originally Posted by nathanb
What the hell does that mean!!!?????????
P.s I got 18" T1R's and all I can say is they stick like spunk to bedsheets!!
P.s I got 18" T1R's and all I can say is they stick like spunk to bedsheets!!
It means when he puts them just over the limit of their grip when cornering -they loose grip progressively. Which is what the difference between a good set up and a bad one. Its a bit worrying that you dont understand that seeing as you are driving a very quick bit of Kit!!!?????????????
16 October 2006, 07:49 PM
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Stop being so patronising Steve. What the **** has it got to do with you what I know about bloody tires!! Perhaps I dont drive around like a tit pushing tires "over the limit" on the public roads!
