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Old 17 October 2000 | 10:37 PM
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I have not come on here wishing to start a fight.Do you like the look of the new Focus RS I wont comment on on the MY2001 Scoob has you lot have covered that yourselves.






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Old 17 October 2000 | 10:48 PM
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It looks great. Much better than the last model. But then again car designs generally do improve don't they - most of them anyway
Old 17 October 2000 | 11:00 PM
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Looks fine buts its a Ford ain't it?? will not have much 'staying' power !!! thats 'staying outa the garage' power!!

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Old 17 October 2000 | 11:08 PM
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Looks loads better than the normal focus . When they do a 4 wheel drive version it could well steel a few Imreza buyers .
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Old 17 October 2000 | 11:12 PM
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Watch out Les is on here !! I think its a lot better looking! Maybe some of you Scooby boys will come over to our camp now? Well until the New Scooby gets another face lift
Old 17 October 2000 | 11:17 PM
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If it's front wheel drive forget it.

If its 4x4 it's a winner.
Old 17 October 2000 | 11:18 PM
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Nah don't like it. Never have liked the Focus. All this new edge garbage. It's a blob with a few straight lines in it. IMO.

Adverts on TV have helped poison me aswell. 'king bollox.

I disliked the Escort as well. Not just the Focus.

But I admit to likeing the Mondeo ST200. Don't like the new one though. Interior is good. I also liked the old Cosseh.

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Got to be honest m8, it looks like any other Focus (with a Max Power bodykit)

Nothing new or refreshing (like old Escort Cossie at the time). I'm sure it'll go like the proverbial.but at the end of the day it'll have an image problem I'm sure.

Doesn't mean I mightn't be tempted tho'

Old 17 October 2000 | 11:27 PM
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Thanks for the replies at least you aint been to unkind ( yet ).As for the maxpower body kit dont give them Nova boys any ideas its bad enough they put scooby bonnet vents on those things.But RS parts total blashpomy.

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Old 18 October 2000 | 01:09 AM
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I like the look of it, but then I like the look of the Std Focus.

I wouldn't buy one though, FWD is crap (IMO) and I like car's to have a door per seat.

Unless this was real cheap, I'd wait for the Cosworth one too.

Ps, What does 'Rally bred pedigree' mean ? I thought Ford raced a 4WD Focus ?

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Old 18 October 2000 | 02:26 AM
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Looks .. well.. like a Focus really..
it'd better be 4wd...
can't say I'm that struck with it from the pics so far

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Old 18 October 2000 | 02:29 AM
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I'm very underwhelmed by it's looks too. The Racing Puma looks much better IMO but that goes like a wet lettuce (apparently).
Old 18 October 2000 | 02:35 AM
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Well, i like it. But i guess the FWD is gonna bring the same problems as with the Volvo i currently own. Then again, how will it be priced compared to the Impreza?

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Old 18 October 2000 | 08:48 AM
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Any idea on price.
Old 18 October 2000 | 09:05 AM
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I don't mind its looks but I don't think its a 4x4 so 200 bhp + front wheel drive + wet sounds like you'll be going nowhere and I guess it will be dearer than a scoob.
Look at the Racing Puma 21K same as a scoob, no wonder they have only made 350 out of the initial 1000 run and lost money on every one due to having to start from a fully built boggo puma!!!!. Until they bring out a 4x4 cossie version its just a tarted up hatchback.
Old 18 October 2000 | 09:13 AM
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Hmm WRC look... One of the biggest differences looks wise on the WRC Focus is the Big Wing - Where is it?

Looks a bit bland... Maybe look better in the metal! But I can see that bodykit appearing on quite a few other cars!


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I actually quite like it, but does this mean they are no longer working on the Focus Cosworth, or is it somehow supposed to sit in between the std Focus and the Cossie (if it ever appears)?

Old 18 October 2000 | 09:39 AM
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I got a Focus as a company car a few weeks back. It's a great car but struggles putting 115bhp down let alone 230 as Autocar claim.
Old 18 October 2000 | 09:42 AM
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It's sorta chunky really

kinda like Pedigree Chum

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Old 18 October 2000 | 10:13 AM
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Old 18 October 2000 | 10:35 AM
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It looks OK

But the real question is....

What does it go like?

with only 200 or 250 horses, can't see it as being wonderful (unless its very light, like westfield)

And what will it cost - bet its more than the "racing" Puma, which cost a few £K more than the scoob

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(who would love to see ford produce something really worthwhile - they have the expertise and the business partnerships but have never really got anywhere near since the RS500 and Escort Cossies)
Old 18 October 2000 | 10:37 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by JayDee:
<B>It looks OK

But the real question is....

What does it go like?

with only 200 or 250 horses, can't see it as being wonderful (unless its very light, like westfield)

And what will it cost - bet its more than the "racing" Puma, which cost a few £K more than the scoob

JD

(who would love to see ford produce something really worthwhile - they have the expertise and the business partnerships but have never really got anywhere near since the RS500 and Escort Cossies)[/quote]

PS - And in history they have the GT40 and the RS200
Old 18 October 2000 | 10:40 AM
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I think we should welcome enthusiasts of other marques on this BBS. It's good to read such a friendly posting. After all, we are all CAR nuts, aren't we?

Ref the Focus, and Ford in general, I think they lost the plot when they killed the Escort Cossie. I had one and, although unreliable, I loved it for its driving appeal. The Puma is the only shell IMHO which can be made to look sufficiently aggressive - the rally Focus looks too much like a van!

If the Racing Puma looks could be added to 'proper' 4wd (i.e. rear biased) and turbo'd to 250+ bhp, I'm sure it would be a great success. But no chance for the Focus whatever Ford do with it. Sorry.

p.s. If Peugeot let loose with a roadgoing 206 rally copy, there's a mouthwatering prospect!

Can't help feeling the new shape Impreza will encourage many of us to think about other marques. Pity, as the Scooby is so special.

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Old 18 October 2000 | 10:42 AM
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Saw it in the flesh yesterday. Very nice it is too.
Old 18 October 2000 | 11:02 AM
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I'm afraid I don't like the look of the standard Focus, and this doesn't do anything to change my mind.

In comparison, the MY01 Impreza is a real stunner! (Well, OK, not really, but it would be if it looked like the new WRC prototype!!).
Old 18 October 2000 | 11:15 AM
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If the Focus has AWD and is comparable in price to the Scoob, I'd have one tomorrow. Always been a fan of RS Fords. And they're pseudo British, sort of.

It looks better than the new Impreza anyway

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Old 18 October 2000 | 11:18 AM
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I think it looks great, but I can't see there being enough space in the market for two turbocharged Focuses (Focii?). After all, they'll go about the same speed, accelerate as fast (the 2wd version is bound to be lighter) and cost the same to insure.

Me? I'd wait for the Cosworth version.

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Old 18 October 2000 | 11:19 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>If Peugeot let loose with a roadgoing 206 rally copy, there's a mouthwatering prospect! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I'll have one of those too please

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Old 18 October 2000 | 11:33 AM
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Yeah, this Focus, low on 18", looks like it's designed by a worldclass team. Don't forget it's also roomy and practical.. still, i think one of the nice things of the NewAge Scooby is that it's a car for the real enthousiast, being far 2 ugly (the car that is) to be bought for Image-Purposes or cool cruisin' ... An Impreza is bought 2b driven,, there is no doubt about that, and the NewAge states that in Bold. (When my dad sees the NewAge he's gonna smile at me and he's gonna say 'so it must be quick son?'.)
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Nope

It's to be two two bee driven

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