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Old 26 February 2007, 01:50 PM
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Question Best Car for £16k ish?

Ok people, I need your advice.

I have just managed to total my moded '93 WRX (not a difficult job with insurance companies attitudes these days ) and as such I am in the market for a new car.

I have decided that although you get so much more VFM when you buy a modded car it causes all sorts of issues with servicing, MOT's etc, not to mention insurance, so I am looking for relatively standard UK car.

I have about £16k to spend and want something with all the mod cons, quite fast (sub 6 to 60mph), and handles well. I doesn't have to be too practical (2 seats is fine but more is not a problem) but it does have to be an everyday car (so a Caterham is out of the question) and if its a convertible its a bonus.

Now I know this is a Subaru forum so am expecting (and wanting) some advice on newer model Subarus (a comparison to a 300ish BHP classic wouldn't hurt) but please don't be afraid to go to the dark side and recommend other makes of car.

My thoughts at the moment are a 2003 WRX STi Type-UK PPP, (say it quietly) an Evo7 FQ-300 or a 2001 Porsche Boxster S.

Tell me what you think.

Cheers Alistair
Old 26 February 2007, 02:00 PM
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Easy, buy my car a 320 bhp classic with a properly rebuilt engine and get a Lotus Elise S1 and with the remaining cash pay the insurance

Both cars pretty much depreciation proof and much better than getting one car that would probably be slower than both in different situations
Old 26 February 2007, 02:27 PM
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Scoobynutter555,

Nice car and I bet that API rebuild runs sweet but to be honest I have been down the classic route and to me mods are personal thing and I would be constantly thinking this is nice but I wish it had that so and so off my old one. Also I only want to run one car (I currently run 2 and cant be bothered any more).

Good luck with the sale
Old 26 February 2007, 02:28 PM
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Boxster S no question. really reliable and quick enough

good MPG too
Old 26 February 2007, 02:55 PM
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BMW Z3 M Roadster. Yes, Z3's are haridressers cars, but the M has the same 3 litre engine as an M3, in a tiny Z3. Think they're around 320BHP, and in such a tiny car with rear wheel drive, apparently they're quite insanely scary. They hit 62 in around 5.4 I believe. The coupe (see below) is faster.

You can buy them for 12-15k quite easily without too much mileage.

If you can spend a little more, you may want to look at the M Coupe. It's similar to the Roadster, but isn't convertable and looks a bit better. Apparently it's also faster and more powerful.
Old 26 February 2007, 04:35 PM
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For £16k i would get a spec C or a JDM STi.

If contemplating other marques, then an Evo 8. Or if i needed some economy, get a TDi, like the vRS to get less smiles but more miles.
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Originally Posted by Probein
BMW Z3 M Roadster. Yes, Z3's are haridressers cars, but the M has the same 3 litre engine as an M3, in a tiny Z3. Think they're around 320BHP, and in such a tiny car with rear wheel drive, apparently they're quite insanely scary. They hit 62 in around 5.4 I believe. The coupe (see below) is faster.

You can buy them for 12-15k quite easily without too much mileage.

If you can spend a little more, you may want to look at the M Coupe. It's similar to the Roadster, but isn't convertable and looks a bit better. Apparently it's also faster and more powerful.
Have you seen the video of one of these and the Ghost Rider (motorbike) in Sweden.

Some crazy driving!
Old 26 February 2007, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AliG
Ok people, I need your advice.

I have just managed to total my moded '93 WRX (not a difficult job with insurance companies attitudes these days ) and as such I am in the market for a new car.

I have decided that although you get so much more VFM when you buy a modded car it causes all sorts of issues with servicing, MOT's etc, not to mention insurance, so I am looking for relatively standard UK car.

I have about £16k to spend and want something with all the mod cons, quite fast (sub 6 to 60mph), and handles well. I doesn't have to be too practical (2 seats is fine but more is not a problem) but it does have to be an everyday car (so a Caterham is out of the question) and if its a convertible its a bonus.

Now I know this is a Subaru forum so am expecting (and wanting) some advice on newer model Subarus (a comparison to a 300ish BHP classic wouldn't hurt) but please don't be afraid to go to the dark side and recommend other makes of car.

My thoughts at the moment are a 2003 WRX STi Type-UK PPP, (say it quietly) an Evo7 FQ-300 or a 2001 Porsche Boxster S.

Tell me what you think.

Cheers Alistair
My vote goes to an Evo8 FQ300, but then I am selling mine so that might have something to do with it!

Ultimately, guess it is down to what sort of thing you want size wise. Not a big fan on the Porsche myself so I'd be tempted to go for an STi or Evo.
Old 26 February 2007, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GazTheHat
Have you seen the video of one of these and the Ghost Rider (motorbike) in Sweden.

Some crazy driving!
Yea man, that's partially why I'm suggesting it!!
Old 26 February 2007, 05:38 PM
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Man those Swed's are nutters, just watched the vid on youtube

Ghostrider vs. BMW Z3 M Coupe

Hadn't thought of a BMW to be honest so I will give it a look

as for the Spec C I had a bit of a look round and I thought they were a bit out of my price range closer to 18-19k? got any more details of the different spec C models, years, equipment etc? also don't all the Jap ones need a remap to handle our petrol safely ?

As for the Evo's I thought the general consensus was that the Evo had lost a bit of its magic with the 8 and 9 hence I was looking at the 7, anybody had any of them ?

thanks again Alistair
Old 26 February 2007, 05:47 PM
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Old 26 February 2007, 06:37 PM
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Buy My Car £13.5k - Pay off the insurance with the remainder, winner.


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View My Scooby for the spec etc

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Old 26 February 2007, 06:46 PM
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How about my Spec C - The best model of new shape Impreza within your budget -

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Old 26 February 2007, 07:33 PM
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Honda S2000 with turbo or supercharger kit?
Old 26 February 2007, 07:35 PM
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IMO this:

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Old 26 February 2007, 07:41 PM
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Buy a brand new WRX at £14,248 OTR. Get a H&S system inc. centre de-cat, Mocom re-map and high level spoiler say £15,500. Done.
Old 26 February 2007, 07:43 PM
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Looks 'nippy'
Old 26 February 2007, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AliG
As for the Evo's I thought the general consensus was that the Evo had lost a bit of its magic with the 8 and 9 hence I was looking at the 7, anybody had any of them ?

thanks again Alistair
I think that when the 7 came out, feelings were that they had diluted the 6 too much and as such the marque had lost its edge too much. After all they did a semi-auto box for them!!

However, I think you'll find that the 8 was certainly a step back in the right direction. I've never driven a 9 so can't say, but the 8 IMHO was a better car than the 7 and a lot better looking. However it is not as harsh as the 6 was, but just as fast and composed.

Need to make sure you pick the right colour in 'em as well, trust me





Full details - for sale

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Old 26 February 2007, 10:43 PM
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Sadam - Nice Spec C but I think it might be a bit moded for my long term insurance needs (I.E. getting some an anything other than a limited milage policy) will have to check the costs but still an option

MrRA - after GAZ sugested Spec C's earlier I went looking again and found that but I would never get my fat arese in those Buckets (or more to the point I would never get it out!!!) plus isn't it the early ordinary one that doesnt have all the mod cons (air con etc)? as I want this as my main car for a while to come I would like something with a a higer degree of comfort really

Chip - tempting but too much of a toy, wouldn't it be nice if Pug at ually made a version like that to compete with the Clio V6 ......ooooh clio V6 not a bad Idea?


Matt - Sweeeeeeeeeet Evo I have never driven one so before I go wasting anyones time I think I will get myself down to a dealer and see if I like them then I may well be in touch

ok guys some nice stuff coming up here but as I said I would like something not moded so I can get some ordinary insurance, one of the main reasons for this is if it doesn't already have mods then I am hoping I will be able to stop myself from starting the process, I got a bit addicted last time and spent about the purchase price of the car again on mods which we all know is money down the drain
Old 26 February 2007, 11:01 PM
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Hi Alig

Sorry to hear about your little incident with the central reservation.....hope you weren't showing off bro

I might be able to help you out.....fancy one of these......?

Old 27 February 2007, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Churchill



I like the interior, did you have to pay extra from new for it? I'm looking for either an sti or evo early next year.

Good luck with your sale btw, looks a very nice car and well looked after.

Nick.
Old 27 February 2007, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by nick_wrx
I like the interior, did you have to pay extra from new for it? I'm looking for either an sti or evo early next year.

Good luck with your sale btw, looks a very nice car and well looked after.

Nick.
Nick, yeah it was the leather option when I got the car. Think since then the std interior has changed a bit. Looks even better in the flesh, the pics don't do it too much justice.
Thx a lot.
Matt
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Originally Posted by ELYA49
Buy a brand new WRX at £14,248 OTR. Get a H&S system inc. centre de-cat, Mocom re-map and high level spoiler say £15,500. Done.
At the end of the day though, he'll still have a WRX. (without warranty)
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Originally Posted by Chip Sengravy


Looks 'nippy'
Nice!!
Old 27 February 2007, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AliG
MrRA - after GAZ sugested Spec C's earlier I went looking again and found that but I would never get my fat arese in those Buckets (or more to the point I would never get it out!!!) plus isn't it the early ordinary one that doesnt have all the mod cons (air con etc)? as I want this as my main car for a while to come I would like something with a a higer degree of comfort really
I think it's a Spec C Ltd then you're after. With all the mod-cons. There's been a few mentioned and advertised recently.
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Originally Posted by AliG
MrRA - after GAZ sugested Spec C's earlier I went looking again and found that but I would never get my fat arese in those Buckets (or more to the point I would never get it out!!!) plus isn't it the early ordinary one that doesnt have all the mod cons (air con etc)? as I want this as my main car for a while to come I would like something with a a higer degree of comfort really
PMSL mate.

I can understand where your coming from
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Dare i suggest it. A Ford Focus RS. Or Better yet a Ford Escort Coswort Lux. Both within your budget and loads of tuning potential with both.
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AliG - adding mods to your car doesn't add too much to the insurance costs and doesn't result in limited mileage policies.

My Spec C is insured for 20,000 miles per year, including business use, use abroad, my points, the mods, use by my partner (with her 6 points) all for under £1k a year.
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Nicely Modded Supra
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