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Old 27 March 2007, 12:35 PM
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Default Best/Most effective mods for a Classic shape

I am fairly new to Scooby ownership and my knowledge of the cars is pretty limited. Therefore, I am starting this thread to see what are the best mods to carry out on my MY94 (or any other classic shape).

I am not looking for a crazy fast Scoob. But what are effective modifications (and their rough cost) that do not present reliability issues?
Old 27 March 2007, 12:59 PM
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Use the search my m8 - lots of info to be found instantly

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Old 27 March 2007, 01:04 PM
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Go faster stripes is the first mod you should get, that will give you about an extra 60 bhp.
Old 27 March 2007, 01:05 PM
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Best/Most effective mods for a Classic shape
Sell it and get a post bug eye(fugly) model

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Get yourself a decat down pipe, decat centre that should cost £300-ish. Will provide great improvement. Then;
Induction kit- £100-ish
FMIC- can be had for £200-ish, would need fitting
aftermarket ecu- Apexi FC + Commander and mapping- £700-ish

List goes on but think the above is a must for just starting mods.
Old 27 March 2007, 01:37 PM
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Whiteline:
Droplinks
Rear ARB
ALK
+ Springs

About £600 fitted, inc 4 wheel geometry. Will transform your cars handling.
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Originally Posted by Borat_Drives_A_Scooby
Go faster stripes is the first mod you should get, that will give you about an extra 60 bhp.

****................. bet you`ve got a nice car??
Old 27 March 2007, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by staffi
****................. bet you`ve got a nice car??
Don't bite Pete.Just someone on here for a cheap laugh.
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Uprated brakes
Old 27 March 2007, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bat-Fink
Don't bite Pete.Just someone on here for a cheap laugh.
Probably Curse of the Rushing Gimp. SN is full of people with dubious aliases!

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@ Afrikanz & GazTheHat - Thanks for your help lads.

@ Moonloops... Or even better I could buy a big heavy estate
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How much power do you want?
Check out PolarPerformance for ecu fettling (if you do start messing with the ecu fuelling upgrades are worthwhile fuel pump £85+ and possibly regulator £150+)
I don't think you have a centre cat on an early wrx (i didn't on mine) so £120ish for a decat pipe.
I'd go with Gaz on the suspension fitted some rear droplinks to mine and i can 'feel' my car can be pushed a liitle harder into corners.
And agree with Jap Import the brakes are shockingly ba (i changed mine for late model 4 pots).
But do a search on here and you'll find a whole lot of advice.
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VTA dumpvalve innit
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just spent £3k on my from new 99 wagon. if the shocks / springs are gone - change 'em first - otherwise it'll just be an understeering fat old barge. then the brakes, then exhaust / remap. classic far better than the newage - lighter, nimbler, more fun (if the suspension's not karked).
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For styling i would add some STi rear lights (the red/white ones)
Old 04 April 2007, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by myblackwrx
How much power do you want?
Check out PolarPerformance for ecu fettling (if you do start messing with the ecu fuelling upgrades are worthwhile fuel pump £85+ and possibly regulator £150+)
I don't think you have a centre cat on an early wrx (i didn't on mine) so £120ish for a decat pipe.
I'd go with Gaz on the suspension fitted some rear droplinks to mine and i can 'feel' my car can be pushed a liitle harder into corners.
And agree with Jap Import the brakes are shockingly ba (i changed mine for late model 4 pots).
But do a search on here and you'll find a whole lot of advice.
Spec Sheet for the new ESL live road mapping adaptor : ESL Live Spec
Old 04 April 2007, 11:55 PM
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I dont recommend an induction kit. It is far cheaper and safer just going for a higher flow panel filter, like a K&N. Induction kits have a nasty habit of letting dirt through and onto the Airflow sensor which then goes bye bye and they arent cheap to replace.
Go for the above plus a higher flow exhaust (dont forget to hang on to your old cat for MOT time) , and like AFRIKANZ says an Apexi FC + Commander and that should give you the level of power you are looking for. Sadly ECUTEK is not available for your year of car because it is awesome but the Apexi FC is a great alternative.

Have fun Dude.
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To be safe you need a Walbro 341 pump, rated by the manufacturer at 255 litre per hour as Scott said, £85 or £90 posted. If your fuel pressure regulator is not overcome by the new pump then there is no need for an after market FPR unless you want to exceed the existing capacity of your O/E fuel injectors.

After that:
1) For a noticable power improvement, start with a decat down pipe, preferably 3" open neck. If you can extend to it, also go for a proven performance exhaust system complete such as the Revolution. Your decision on the rest of the exhaust may be influenced by the condition of the exising system.
2) Next would be ported headers and matched up-pipe.
3)You are then ready for an ECU change that will allow you to alter fueling and ignition timing to suit your particular car. This should be an ECU that can be mapped to your car, not a generic chip if you can afford the best solution.

Stay with the standard air box for now. Ensure the filter is in good order. Changing the panel filter will make little or no difference and could even loose a small amount of power.
Do not go for a cone at this stage.


Think about a Knock Link and Boost Guage but some after market ECUs have a DET alarm and even pressure read out facility. I
I hope this is helpful. Happy modding.

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Old 05 April 2007, 07:22 AM
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My approach would be in 2 stages:
1
1997 or later Sti syspension/brakes as a whole.
Add whiteline 22mm bar on the back, ALK to the front, Camber bolts all round
Ace alignment.

Have a lot of fun.
2
Additionally

As Harvey says.

Graham
Old 05 April 2007, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RICH S202
Sadly ECUTEK is not available for your year of car because it is awesome but the Apexi FC is a great alternative.

Have fun Dude.
ECUTEK isn't available....Apexi's are going Obsolete.....but this is new on the market : ESL Live Spec, this effectivley gives ECUTEK ability to the Pre96's

Several Well Known Mappers now have the ability to do this on any Pre96 ECU

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since when are apexis going obsolete?
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That's more like it. Thanks for all the advice lads.

Just gotta take it all in now.

Once again many thanks all
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Originally Posted by trf1979
@ Afrikanz & GazTheHat - Thanks for your help lads.
No worries
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
since when are apexis going obsolete?
since about now...
only offical Apexi dealers can get hold of them, and these are just left over stock.

Greenline in Japan, who supplied mine and alot of others on ere can no longer supply Pre96.
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solid drop links and whiteline rear anti roll bar
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Originally Posted by trf1979
@ Afrikanz & GazTheHat - Thanks for your help lads.

@ Moonloops... Or even better I could buy a big heavy estate
nothing wrong with a big heavy etate i've got a 310 bhp volvo T5 that pisses my scoob
Old 06 April 2007, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyfrankie
nothing wrong with a big heavy etate i've got a 310 bhp volvo T5 that pisses my scoob
Sounds like your Scoob suspension is requiring some attention then
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Originally Posted by Mick
Sounds like your Scoob suspension is requiring some attention then
well, i had a 2.5 turbo xc v70 that had 290 bhp and wait for it .......425ftlbs torque ! now thats why it pisses over scoobs ( some times) major grunt... so his torque would have been more than 425lbsft !
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Originally Posted by scoobyfrankie
nothing wrong with a big heavy etate i've got a 310 bhp volvo T5 that pisses my scoob
Sounds like quite a machine, I've always had a soft spot for T5's. Any pics?
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Re post. Apologies

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