Do dump valves do anything???
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Do dump valves do anything???
I have a reasonable understanding of how the turbo engine of the Impreza works. I know that it has a re-cerc valve and that the general consensus is that dump or blow off valves give no improvement in performance.
But if this is the case, why do the WRC team use them? Is it due to large differences in the construction of the engine or are we missing something?
P.S. Lewis, feel free to drop in your usual dump valve crap valve comments blar blar blar
But if this is the case, why do the WRC team use them? Is it due to large differences in the construction of the engine or are we missing something?
P.S. Lewis, feel free to drop in your usual dump valve crap valve comments blar blar blar
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Ian,
Here's some sensible replies. Do a trawl in Search and you'll see what I mean. I had one on my old Classic, OK for a few weeks but got bored of old grans filling their bags as you drive around town..............eeeewwww!
Ian,
Here's some sensible replies. Do a trawl in Search and you'll see what I mean. I had one on my old Classic, OK for a few weeks but got bored of old grans filling their bags as you drive around town..............eeeewwww!
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A vent to atmosphere dumpvalve ruins the drivability of the impreza.
I have tried one on an sti4 and my99 uk turbo. Both cars became very 'jumpy', when applying any throttle.
You just can't beat a good recirculating dv.
I have tried one on an sti4 and my99 uk turbo. Both cars became very 'jumpy', when applying any throttle.
You just can't beat a good recirculating dv.
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Fit a Turbosmart dual port if you want a dump valve, it recircs while pottering round but also vents to atmosphere when pushing it a bit. No issues with the ecu and fuelling. Nice noise at full chat but can be silent when pottering around. No turbo probs either.
If dump valves are as bad as everyone says, how come nearly all the subaru specialists sell them
I think its more down to personal preference, I have had one on all my turbo cars, going all the way back to R5s in the early 90s, cant say any of them had major probs caused by vta dump valves.
I think most people who recommend not having them think they are chavy, but really Subarus arent really discreet in anyway are they
If dump valves are as bad as everyone says, how come nearly all the subaru specialists sell them
I think its more down to personal preference, I have had one on all my turbo cars, going all the way back to R5s in the early 90s, cant say any of them had major probs caused by vta dump valves.
I think most people who recommend not having them think they are chavy, but really Subarus arent really discreet in anyway are they
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Another in agreement - I have a Scoobyclinic WRX Hybrid and love the Pshhhhtttttttt sound! Hasn't ruined drivability of the car but has ruined my ability as a driver - I always drive like a bus driver now to max out on the whooshes - at my age I should know better
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dump valves dont ruin your car if you get one just make sure its the correct one for car,i have i bailey motorsport one fitted the trumpet one,and no problems,supposed to take the pressure off the turbo and make it last longer,also rally teams dont use them the sound what you here from the rally cars is the turbo boost pressure is changed so there is more pressure but there could be damage done like this but makes them faster.
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I think you will find that a dual port or hybrid as most are recommending does overcome the MAF issue as it does both recircs and vta.
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for the records I also called a tuner before buying mine who mentioned even on an unmapped car fitting a model specific vta dump valve will not effect performance in a negative way - these tuners build and tune rally cars
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they don't sale them mate - they only tune cars. I am sure that VTA dump valves causing all sorts of problems is a myth. I think a few people have bought cheap ebay or non model specific units and have had bad experiences and put a lot of people off. If you like it, buy it - if you don't, don't buy one. Speak from experience I say and not what you read
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Subaru WRC cars have no dump valve.
Little point, when they have antilag
I think the point in question is why mess with the original recirc valve; ain't broke don't fix. It's sole purpose is to stop the chattering noise and relive excess pressure when the throttle is shut. Performance wise it does nothing, the only thing it will do is reduce the sudden changes in thrust loading on the turbo - beneficial if you have a VF series turbo. Changing the orginal valve won't improve it, although if you fit the wrong one (like a vent to atmosphere type) you can introduce other problems - especially if its adjusted incorrectly (or not at all), which most aftermarket ones are. Hesitation and backfiring being the main known issues....although some people like to have popping and banging accaompanied by the odd flame spitting out the exhaust (depending on the system fitted), so to them its a good thing.
Little point, when they have antilag
I think the point in question is why mess with the original recirc valve; ain't broke don't fix. It's sole purpose is to stop the chattering noise and relive excess pressure when the throttle is shut. Performance wise it does nothing, the only thing it will do is reduce the sudden changes in thrust loading on the turbo - beneficial if you have a VF series turbo. Changing the orginal valve won't improve it, although if you fit the wrong one (like a vent to atmosphere type) you can introduce other problems - especially if its adjusted incorrectly (or not at all), which most aftermarket ones are. Hesitation and backfiring being the main known issues....although some people like to have popping and banging accaompanied by the odd flame spitting out the exhaust (depending on the system fitted), so to them its a good thing.
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At the end of the day fitting a dump valve is the same as fitting bigger wheels, different exhausts, turbos, air filters, lights, spoilers etc.............
The phrase in the above post "if it aint broke dont fix it" is rubish, anything done to the cars as upgrades(mods) is basically away from the manufacturers spec and acording to the above post should be left standard.
Wouldnt life be boring
The phrase in the above post "if it aint broke dont fix it" is rubish, anything done to the cars as upgrades(mods) is basically away from the manufacturers spec and acording to the above post should be left standard.
Wouldnt life be boring