just some advice please, my friend has just been pulled over on the motorway. he was travelling in the middle lane in traffic with cars either side of him. the police pulled him over and said he was travelling at 95 mph.
i cant understand why they would have stopped him whilst cars were passing him in the outside lane? when he asked to see the video footage they just produce a gun saying 95mph.
and please im not interested in people who are going to go on about how speeding is wrong blah blah blah... thanks guys!

 

sounds like your mate was just unlucky,the plod in one car cannot target all the cars so they just pick one

 

Doesn't matter where he was on the road, he was speeding. Could be police just didn't like the way he was driving, the look of the car or they were playing their infamous colour snooker games. His car isn't black is it?

As stated above, they can't pull everyone, so... life's a bitch sometimes. There's a moral in the story but I won't state the obvious, since you asked us not to.

 

I take it that this was a moving motorway patrol car that was manned by 1 person as most motorway cars are manned by one person from what i have seen ?

Now i stand top be corrected here, i thought the rule regarding using a speed gun is that it has to be witnessed by another person i.e 2 persons in the patrol car because if not its one persons word against yours which rarely stands up in a cour of law.

I thought the only way a motorway patrol car can do you is from the in car video cameras that they all carry on board, if this was a gun which s what you have put then their must have been more than 1 person in the patrol car as you can do him for dangerous driving if not as he has took his hands off the steering wheel to use the gun

 

I think you will find that magistrates are more than happy to convict on the word of a single policeman and that if it was not the case, there would not be cars with one officer in them.
On the brighter side, I think it is better to get busted "face to face" with a chance of a discussion rather than by way of a bill and three points in the post.

 

As mentioned probably just unlucky, if he has a sporty car they are probably more likely to speed check that than a ford focus or something. I went passed an unmarked plod car (only noticed when alongside) at around 95-100 the other day in an audi barge thing.. Copper didn't even blink. If it had been a scooby with a big exhaust he probably woulda pulled me.. Thats my thinking anyhow!

 

Are you standing..... there is no legal requirement for 2 officers when using a speed gun, VASCAR, speedo or any other calibrated device.

 

WAIT ON!

He should contest this. The guns are not that accurate when there is a large volume of traffic. Unless he was doing that speed and has admitted it the chances are that the copper has actually got a reading off the overtaking traffic in the outside lane.

A guy got accused of doing 109mph on the M6 in the middle lane and the Police had to admit in court that it was probably the car in the outside lane that gave the reading.

Only this week, in what is now being viewed as a landmark case, a motorist accused of speeding at 109mph along the M6 toll road in Staffordshire was cleared by a judge because of an error by a laser gun or its police handlers.

Speed guns <span class="underline">do</span> lie | the Daily Mail

I'd fight it.

5t.

 

Is your friend claiming that he was actually doing less than 70 mph then?

If not I don't see what his problem is, he was caught fair and square.

 

Unless he is certain that he wasn't speeding, his lane, behaviour of other cars, sportiness of his car or colour of his bra are not an issue here. There is nothing to contest. Job done...

 

Can a laser speed gun be operated correctly and accurately from a moving vehicle? How does it compensate for the speed of the police car if it isn't wired in?

 

You can imagine the coppers.

#1 "Which one then?"
#2 "Eenie meanie miny mo.....middle lane"



I was told 95 was a ban too. (When i was caught doing 93.5)

 

Nope, so it was either VASCAR or it was a laser gun which had been used whilst the BiB were stationary parked up on a slip road or something - hence why he was in the middle lane when they pulled him some time after...

 

At the end of the day, if he was indeed doing that speed then thats the end of the matter....

If you could only be done for speeding in the outside lane i gurantee it would be deserted with the middle lane doing 100mph+

 

Id like to tkae this all at face value, BUT...........

Are you SURE he wasn't knowingly undertaking a slower car in the outside lane? (Albeit a car that was also exceeding the 70MPH speed limit). [A BMW for example].

I like to have my facts clear.

Undertaking at speed is much more likely to get a bad response from the old bill than overtaking at speed. For obvious reasons.

 

If he was speeding then take the fine and points, if he wasn't get him to Contest it and take the matter to court.

I contested my allogation of speeding, They admitted they had made an error, They withdrew the allogation and i'm now sorting out compensation for wasting my time etc

 

Here we go again, the bad old person who undertakes is all evil that exists on our planet.

I have patiently sat behind lane hoggers on many occasions waiting for them to allow faster traffic through but they don't. They just sit there causing frustration behind them, selfish b*****s
Then when you move to the inside lane they swerve onto you, on purpose, so who is really the cause of the problem and who is the most dangerous.

Speeding is not always safe but it is not always unsafe either. More to the point it is easy to prosecute with the evidence of a Gatso, etc but where are the gizmo's that catch dangerous drivers or those arrogant sods that quite delibrately block our highways

Police aren't interested because they need to be out on the roads to catch them and they have to few vehicles to effectively police it anyway.
I, for one would love to see a more reasonable approach to speeding, giving warnings only when it occurs in safe conditions, etc, with a bit of education thrown in. We see neds getting of repeatedly for causing decent people distress but get caught doing a bit over the limit.... BANG your done mate!

There are huge numbers of drivers on our roads causing lethal accidents but they don't speed, mainly because they are incompetent! How many times have you been held up by some idiot doing 45mph in a 60 only to watch them speed away from you as you drive into a 30, does my head in Am I not correct when I say that you fail you're test for going to slow as well as to fast. Slowing kills to!!

I am not a perfect driver by any means but the singling out of speeding as an offence is prejudiced in the extreme..... cameras and unmarked cars seem to be everywhere When was the last time you heard of a plain clothed police officer jump up in a pub and save some innocent from being beat up and hospitalised or worse?

To many people on here come across whiter than white on these threads whilst owning a legendary marque, famed for it's huge performance

Flame jacket on

PS - I have a clean licence so don't assume I race everywhere because I don't. I do enjoy driving my car though, take that how you will.

Now off line.

 

You are now blaming other drivers for provoking you,, - as a defence!!
They made me do it officer, I had no other choice

I agree, that people who sit in the outside lane without moving into a space in the middle lane ARE annoying. And ignorant/complacent/selfish/self-centred etc...

In the same way that people who sit in the middle lane without moving to a space in the inside lane are also annoying. And ignorant/complacent/selfish/self-centred etc...

I think everyone has 'occassionally' wished to, or has - Shot past in the next lane when it was safe to do so. If done done safely, the 'hogger' is usually shamed into moving lanes when he realises that he has been a pratt.

(your own scenario sounds more like some sort of grudge match???, than an unobservant driver - no smoke without fire).



BUT, when all the smoke settles and the film is shown, its still against the law and we all know that - if we do it. You makes the risk and takes the risk....

The same can be said for drivers moving straight accross two lanes at once. You are supposed to move one lane at a time, indicate/look etc.. and move again, but people still do it (mostly because motorway driving is not taught as part of the driving test, unless it was one of the random questions at the end).

I have lost count of the near accidents caused by people who think indicator lights create a force field/magic bridge as them move straight to the outside.

 

Perhaps he was "caught" speeding earlier than when he was driving between the other 2 lanes.
A speed gun would suggest that the cops were stationary when they zapped your mate and had a bit of catching up to do.

He should hold his hands up.