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Normally I get the usual cr$ppy 230 miles to a tank in my 05 STI urban mileage, but last 2 tanks Iv only just scraped over the 200miles?? Now I am presuming this may be due to the excessive chilly weather and heavier boost, running richer? Car only 6 weeks ago had its 30k service and its in mint condition so cant think its anything mechanical, anyone else experiencing this? Oh and before any smart alec says depends how much they 'rag' it, I dont, and normally get 230 odd urban miles without redlining it thank you
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It will be performing better due to denser air, and therefore using more fuel, but it should be more efficient while doing so - ie your mpg will be less but its actually giving more power from the fuel its using.
If its significantly worse and continues to be, and you have bad idle, your lambda may be fooked.
If its significantly worse and continues to be, and you have bad idle, your lambda may be fooked.
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Get too depressed if I were to sit down and do the figures... needless to say, at least £70 a week of my hard-earned is going straight to Shell (actually, mostly to the government..) but does seem a bit more thirsty in the cold.
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thanks guys nice to know fellow owners getting the same. I thought it was the reason but you never know. Yes car pulls like an absolute train aswell its def putting out more power in the denser air no doubt, and of course as we all know 109 a litre doesnt help
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What I don't understand is (and I'm assuming the STI has the same size tank as the WRX) I can easily get 250 to a tankful and nearer 300 without really trying. Also, whilst it does feel a bit stronger in the cold, I don't notice a drop in economy (there's a word you shouldn't use for an Impreza, lol..!).
And before anyone says mines only a WRX and we're talking about STI's, it's pushing 350 and will embarras most >400bhp STI's..!![Big Grin](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
The only thing I can think of is you guys drive 10/10th all of the time..! Or could it be the 6sp ratios..?
And before anyone says mines only a WRX and we're talking about STI's, it's pushing 350 and will embarras most >400bhp STI's..!
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The only thing I can think of is you guys drive 10/10th all of the time..! Or could it be the 6sp ratios..?
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What I don't understand is (and I'm assuming the STI has the same size tank as the WRX) I can easily get 250 to a tankful and nearer 300 without really trying. Also, whilst it does feel a bit stronger in the cold, I don't notice a drop in economy (there's a word you shouldn't use for an Impreza, lol..!).
And before anyone says mines only a WRX and we're talking about STI's, it's pushing 350 and will embarras most >400bhp STI's..!![Big Grin](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
The only thing I can think of is you guys drive 10/10th all of the time..! Or could it be the 6sp ratios..?
And before anyone says mines only a WRX and we're talking about STI's, it's pushing 350 and will embarras most >400bhp STI's..!
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The only thing I can think of is you guys drive 10/10th all of the time..! Or could it be the 6sp ratios..?
Does a remap help with MPG!?
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it did on mine well not much vs the ppp i used to have. Mine would do about 200 in summer on the ppp, then it rose to about 220-230 on tsl333map..driving on motorways itll hit 300 if i do 70 the whole time and dont slow/ get stuck in traffic etc.
It has dropped basically down to 200 in the winter so lost about 1-2mpg i guess from the summer norms.
It has dropped basically down to 200 in the winter so lost about 1-2mpg i guess from the summer norms.
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Cold weather = cold start = more fuel needed
Cold weather = heater on and slower warm up = more fuel used for temperature compensation
Cold Weather = thicker oil at start and more drag
Cold weather = slower in getting oil to temp and more drag
Cold weather = heated rear windows and more alterantor load
Cold weather = Winter = darker = running with lights on which costs you about 3%, or about 5% if you use front fogs as well
Cold weather = denser intake air at WOT so more fuel used (even if you do accelerate quicker)
Cold intake air (on a cruise) = throttle shut more for the same mass air flow = more pumping losses dragging air past the throttle.
Cold Weather = cold PAS fluid so more drag
Cold weather = thermostat open less so more water pump load
I think you get the drift - winter is bad for your FE (But great for power!)
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Cold weather = heater on and slower warm up = more fuel used for temperature compensation
Cold Weather = thicker oil at start and more drag
Cold weather = slower in getting oil to temp and more drag
Cold weather = heated rear windows and more alterantor load
Cold weather = Winter = darker = running with lights on which costs you about 3%, or about 5% if you use front fogs as well
Cold weather = denser intake air at WOT so more fuel used (even if you do accelerate quicker)
Cold intake air (on a cruise) = throttle shut more for the same mass air flow = more pumping losses dragging air past the throttle.
Cold Weather = cold PAS fluid so more drag
Cold weather = thermostat open less so more water pump load
I think you get the drift - winter is bad for your FE (But great for power!)
Simon
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I have had over 400 miles to a tank in mine when decatted and remapped (yes I know its hard to believe) and could easily get 350 to a tank with mixed driving. It did start to drop a little once I got over around 50k though. Now with the sti injectors and vf35 I am very very lucky to get 250 miles even with poncey driving but I suppose thats to be expected. I should probably get the sensors checked out as well though.
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I am still shocked that many of you get these sorts of mileages out of a Newage. I get between 200-230miles from a tank...... on a Spec C (50ltr tank so smaller) running over 500bhp on a 2.5l engine. Mine travels far from sedately. ![Big Grin](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Seriously though.... it does make you think.
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Seriously though.... it does make you think.
Regards,
Shaun
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Cold weather = cold start = more fuel needed
Cold weather = heater on and slower warm up = more fuel used for temperature compensation
Cold Weather = thicker oil at start and more drag
Cold weather = slower in getting oil to temp and more drag
Cold weather = heated rear windows and more alterantor load
Cold weather = Winter = darker = running with lights on which costs you about 3%, or about 5% if you use front fogs as well
Cold weather = denser intake air at WOT so more fuel used (even if you do accelerate quicker)
Cold intake air (on a cruise) = throttle shut more for the same mass air flow = more pumping losses dragging air past the throttle.
Cold Weather = cold PAS fluid so more drag
Cold weather = thermostat open less so more water pump load
I think you get the drift - winter is bad for your FE (But great for power!)
Simon
Cold weather = heater on and slower warm up = more fuel used for temperature compensation
Cold Weather = thicker oil at start and more drag
Cold weather = slower in getting oil to temp and more drag
Cold weather = heated rear windows and more alterantor load
Cold weather = Winter = darker = running with lights on which costs you about 3%, or about 5% if you use front fogs as well
Cold weather = denser intake air at WOT so more fuel used (even if you do accelerate quicker)
Cold intake air (on a cruise) = throttle shut more for the same mass air flow = more pumping losses dragging air past the throttle.
Cold Weather = cold PAS fluid so more drag
Cold weather = thermostat open less so more water pump load
I think you get the drift - winter is bad for your FE (But great for power!)
Simon
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I am still shocked that many of you get these sorts of mileages out of a Newage. I get between 200-230miles from a tank...... on a Spec C (50ltr tank so smaller) running over 500bhp on a 2.5l engine. Mine travels far from sedately. ![Big Grin](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Seriously though.... it does make you think.
Regards,
Shaun
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Seriously though.... it does make you think.
Regards,
Shaun
Thats very good going on a 50 litre tank with that spec, bearing in mind most of us with more standard newages have 60 litre tanks. I reckon these engines have a peak efficiency between 20-30k miles when they are run in and functioning at their best. I would imagine your motor must also get extremely well looked after though?
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