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Old 18 December 2007, 11:55 AM
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Default If you had 12k to spend

As above im looking to replace my uk turbo next year. Its running about 260bhp and feels very quick.

Ive got 12k to spend. The choices are.

1. Evo 7
2. Focus RS
3. BMW330ci
4. Bugeye sti prodrve again
5.Save a couple of quid more and get a dc5 integra?

Any other recommendations would be great

Regards Dan
Old 18 December 2007, 11:55 AM
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keep the scoob and sc450 it, job done
Old 18 December 2007, 11:59 AM
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Hmmm difficult... If it was just a toy I'd get the EVO but if you want to use it for everyday use I'd get the Bugeye..

You'll be bored of the 330 in 5 minutes and the Integra is a Honda and everyone knows Honda is only good at making motorbikes and adverts
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Or be a bit different: keep the classic and do something like this to it You'll have the best looking Impreza with reliable performance that'll blow most things clean into the weeds!

SC450 Tuning Package

The SC450 complete tuning package comes with 450BHP / 480 TORQUE!!! After 4years of us tuning the STi 2.5 semi closed deck block we can now offer this exclusive tuning package.

As featured on 'The Gaffers' 22B and our SC450 race car currently competing in the Time Attack Pro class series, hot on the heals of well funded big budget race cars with pro drivers.

Specification includes:
EJ257 STi 2.5 Litre bottom end
Custom Scoobyclinic Forged Pistons (with our own design piston crown)
Custom Scoobyclinic Conrods
Uprated ACL big end and main bearings
Modified Oil Pump
SC450 Turbo
Scoobyclinic Oil Cooler
Uprated Fuel Pump / Adjustable Regulator
Autronic ECU and Mapping / Adjustable Boost Controller

Includes Labour, All gaskets, fluids and oils + ECU and Mapping
Price: £9000

Recommended upgrades when fitting the SC450 Tuning Package:
PPG Straight Cut Gear Kit
Package Price: £2,700 fitted

Scoobyclinic 500 semi paddle fast road / track clutch
Package Price: £599 + fitting @ £150

SPECIAL OFFER DEAL PRICE: £12,000
Price Break Down:
SC450 Package - £9,000
Scoobyclinic 500 semi paddle fast road / track clutch - £649 fitted
PPG Straight Cut Gear Kit - £2,700 fitted
Total: £12,349.

I'd also strongly suggest that you give David at APi a ring and ask what he could do to a classic for 12k!! Tell him NS04 says hi!

Ns04
Old 18 December 2007, 12:05 PM
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I've been lucky enough to have a ride int he gaffer's 22b, christ that thing goes like stink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for the quick replies. Unfortunatly i havent got a spare 12k, i would need to sell mine then look to buy another. Had a feeling you might say that about the BMW. i think the Rs looks good and you dont see many of them? Any one had any experience with it/ or against it?

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go for it!!!
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Wouldnt go BMW or integra as they will feel slow. I had a drive of my mates and it was borin after bein in the scoob.

I'd probably go for the evo 7, then the focus RS.
Old 18 December 2007, 12:19 PM
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I had 12k and bought a P1, best car ive had.
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I have been toyin with the evo7 just a bit worried about the running costs although mines not cheap. I like the way a normal focus drives, so thought good drive and good performance might be a good combination with the rs? Plus might be a bit cheaper to run?
Old 18 December 2007, 12:26 PM
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how mouch raw cash have you got?
Old 18 December 2007, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by imprezaworks
I have been toyin with the evo7 just a bit worried about the running costs although mines not cheap. I like the way a normal focus drives, so thought good drive and good performance might be a good combination with the rs? Plus might be a bit cheaper to run?
This is why I said the EVO is a good option if its just a toy and you'll only be doing a couple of 1000 miles a year
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Ah how could i forget the p1. Was so tempted at the beginning of the year before i got the blob sti. thought it was a better value for money at the time.
Old 18 December 2007, 12:31 PM
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In fairness im only doing about 4k a year
Old 18 December 2007, 12:33 PM
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Thumbs up Big numbers traction control

Not sure what the Autronic ECU offers in the way of traction control, but if you think 260bhp is quick then you probably want/need traction control for the SC450 package, at least for on the road. I know that the MOTEC offers it and I would definitely want it if I went this route.

btw, I recently picked up a 2003 JDM STI with TSL333 package, OZ 18s and AP 6 pots for £11k. So, I'd say forget the bugeye prodrive and u'll prob be surprised at what u can get for that money and also at how cheap jap import insurance is.

Best of luck

Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Or be a bit different: keep the classic and do something like this to it You'll have the best looking Impreza with reliable performance that'll blow most things clean into the weeds!

SC450 Tuning Package

The SC450 complete tuning package comes with 450BHP / 480 TORQUE!!! After 4years of us tuning the STi 2.5 semi closed deck block we can now offer this exclusive tuning package.

As featured on 'The Gaffers' 22B and our SC450 race car currently competing in the Time Attack Pro class series, hot on the heals of well funded big budget race cars with pro drivers.

Specification includes:
EJ257 STi 2.5 Litre bottom end
Custom Scoobyclinic Forged Pistons (with our own design piston crown)
Custom Scoobyclinic Conrods
Uprated ACL big end and main bearings
Modified Oil Pump
SC450 Turbo
Scoobyclinic Oil Cooler
Uprated Fuel Pump / Adjustable Regulator
Autronic ECU and Mapping / Adjustable Boost Controller

Includes Labour, All gaskets, fluids and oils + ECU and Mapping
Price: £9000

Recommended upgrades when fitting the SC450 Tuning Package:
PPG Straight Cut Gear Kit
Package Price: £2,700 fitted

Scoobyclinic 500 semi paddle fast road / track clutch
Package Price: £599 + fitting @ £150

SPECIAL OFFER DEAL PRICE: £12,000
Price Break Down:
SC450 Package - £9,000
Scoobyclinic 500 semi paddle fast road / track clutch - £649 fitted
PPG Straight Cut Gear Kit - £2,700 fitted
Total: £12,349.

I'd also strongly suggest that you give David at APi a ring and ask what he could do to a classic for 12k!! Tell him NS04 says hi!

Ns04
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keep the classic and go for a new motor.

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11k That seems reasonable and being an import surely must be quicker than the uk equivelant? Minds working overtime trying to decide what to get. Appreciate eveerybodys advice though.

Regards Dan
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Originally Posted by imprezaworks
Thanks for the quick replies. Unfortunatly i havent got a spare 12k, i would need to sell mine then look to buy another. Had a feeling you might say that about the BMW. i think the Rs looks good and you dont see many of them? Any one had any experience with it/ or against it?

Regards dan
I had a Focus RS for 2 years.

Good points.

Good build quality. (Fantastic compared to a Scooby)
Fantastic Brakes (Virtual race items)
Fantastic handling/grip (Good Chassis)
Blue-fin takes it straight away to 236BHP & 263 lb/ft Torque
1275kg
Rare

Bad points.

Some cars suffered terrible Torque steer (Mine wasn't that bad) so try out a few as they do vary.
1st & 2nd gear hard acceleration in the wet will result in lots of wheel-spin.

More good points than bad.
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Stilover. Is there much difference in the performance between mine and an RS?
Old 18 December 2007, 02:44 PM
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I drove a Focus RS for a couple of hours. I couldn't wait to get out!

In a straight line it was great, on a twisting back road, it kept wanting to throw me into the hedge whenever I overtook. (It was a virtually new car).

Stilover has obviously had more experience of them than me, but I would say test drive one first as Clarkson and Evo mag had the same experience as me.

The new Focus ST is better and faster, but probably still too expensive (and I'd rather have a scoob).
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Originally Posted by imprezaworks
Stilover. Is there much difference in the performance between mine and an RS?

Flame suit on..........


No. They both weigh about the same. With Blue-fin there both pushing out the same'ish power. Once on the move there is nothing in it. In the wet then the Scoob obviously has the traction advantage.(1st & 2nd gear only)

The only thing to do is test drive a few and make your own mind up.

Do I miss mine? Yes, without doubt. It felt more special than my STI. Thats why in 2009 when Ford start selling the new RS, I'll be selling the Scoob and getting the RS. Mine was number 2497

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Originally Posted by Mark'sWRX
Stilover has obviously had more experience of them than me, but I would say test drive one first as Clarkson and Evo mag had the same experience as me.
True.

However the press cars were set up with a more agressive diff setting. As Evo found out when they tested a customer car.

Don't get me wrong, Torque steer is there and on the wrong road it can be dangerous, but on 95% of the time on 95% of roads, I was happily overtaking one handed.
On a flat smooth road it is really awsome.

That's why I say test drive a few. They do seem to vary.
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Personally I would have an EVO 7 or the bug eye. They are probably the most versitile of the choice, and great alrounders. The evo would probably edge it as I prefer the styling.
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Just save another £6K and buy mine.
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12k should get you a very nice 2004 STi PPP - that's what I'd be hunting for.
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I'd consider getting an unmolested bug Sti for £9k and throwing £3k at it to get it to 400HP
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Originally Posted by Jay m A
I'd consider getting an unmolested bug Sti for £9k and throwing £3k at it to get it to 400HP
3K???
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Yep, turbo, exhaust, fuel pump, get your hands dirty, remap
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Someone suggested an impreza type r? Any thoughts?
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Originally Posted by Jay m A
Yep, turbo, exhaust, fuel pump, get your hands dirty, remap
list the parts then.


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