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Old 16 January 2002 | 07:15 PM
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Sorry if this has been done to death etc.

But in the real world, how much slower is a UK Turbo compared to a P1?

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Old 16 January 2002 | 07:18 PM
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Oh dear, flame war guaranteed with this thread

Best answer is go and drive a P1 and see for yourself.
Old 16 January 2002 | 07:21 PM
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Lol, curiousity killed the Steve eh!
Old 16 January 2002 | 07:23 PM
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Hi,

Thought I'd post this, experienced it today.

My mate has just picked up his 2000 X uk scooby, and I picked up my P1 last week. After driving them back to back, all out speed I think the P1 would slaughter a UK turbo, there doesn't feel like a turbo kick in the uk model (just feels powerfull through the revs), where as in the P1 you get a big kick.

In the twisties I reckon it'd be close, uk glides over the bumps (maybe a bit too wallowy), whilst the P1 hammers the road to death, but it does get unsettled if the road is v bumpy.

just my subjective opinion guys.

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Old 16 January 2002 | 07:25 PM
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Okay first answer was rubbish but having owned both this is my feeling.

0-40mph nothing in it.
40-80mph p1 will pull away slowly
80mph+ turbo hits reverse

Add to above much greater in gear flexibility and refinement and better handling set up. Personally I find the whole P1/STi driving experience so much better than turbo but I dont doubt you could probably achieve the same with the right mods. Being able to rev to 8000rpm with the engine still pulling above 5000rpm is great.

Plus if you own a P1 you are one of the elite of course
Old 16 January 2002 | 07:28 PM
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Get an RB5 WRSPORT

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Old 16 January 2002 | 07:29 PM
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Chopped my Uk turbo in just before xmas & got my P1

theres no doubt that the P1 is just a different class
the whole package is better handling, acceleration the feel of the car everything
it just feels so much safer & has less flex in the body is suppose cos its 2 dr instead of 4

dont get me wrong i loved my turbo but drive a P1 & you will want one i guarantee it !
Old 16 January 2002 | 07:34 PM
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Says it all, and we've not even got onto '01s yet

C with equally matched drivers you'll also leave em in the twisties as well. BUT as is often said a Scoob compensates for a poor driver. Follow a good one down the lanes in a sport and who can tell!
Old 16 January 2002 | 07:44 PM
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A turbo with the right mods does have the ability to outrun a P1, i have done I suspect Mr Tangs old car would have done so as well to a greater extent, but what happens when you mod a P1?
Old 16 January 2002 | 07:45 PM
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Less flex in the body in a P1? Must be to do with that super stiff carbon strut brace........

Wondered why I couldn't keep up with them.....

Old 16 January 2002 | 07:48 PM
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CraigH,

Plus its a 2 door bodyshell.

Oh and you cant split/fold the rear seats (that makes all the difference)
Old 16 January 2002 | 07:48 PM
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In a straight line without mods the UK Turbo will get slaughtered but get the bunp steer,anti lift done and on real roads it's going to be a match, if not more than, for the P1.

Have to say though the P1 is a class car and given the choice between UK with bump steer and anti lift or standard P1......I'd go for the P1

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Old 16 January 2002 | 08:13 PM
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Its all relative though

Cant afford a p1, if i could, i dont think id get one, but just my opinion

when you compare the price of a uk and a p1, picked a 99 up in mint condition 6 month ago, for 12000, a grand or 2 on mods and there is a very competent car, it’ll far outreach my driving ability.

Some like the fact that they are a select few, that’s cool that’s their want. Me I don’t care about that, I make the car, not the other way around

It puts a smile on my face
Old 16 January 2002 | 08:41 PM
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Even if it did you still could'nt keep up Craig

But you're a nice boy
Old 17 January 2002 | 12:08 AM
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I went from a standard-ish MY98 UK to an MY00 RA and the difference was jaw dropping . Okay its not a P1 but a P1 cant be a lot slower .
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Chrispee, I agree entirely so long as I'm only allowed to use three gears

Mellow don't go throwing down the gauntlet unles you can afford to invets in the ground effect suspension settings trialed at Brands

[Edited by banshi - 1/16/2002 11:28:15 PM]
Old 17 January 2002 | 12:57 AM
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Steve, just getting back to your original question (...how much slower is a UK Turbo compared to a P1? )I currently own and drive both vehicles daily (no..I do not drive both at the same time..) and can make my own direct comparison.

IMHO: Lots, but they are completely difference machines designed for very different markets.

luv 'em both,

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