cookstar

iTrader: (6)

Wht dont you put a price any more, you know what you want for it, so why not just say?

All this "open to offers" crap

It's not EBAY, are you hoping someone will offer more than it's worth?

Please explain.


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B0DSKI

iTrader: (17)

Nothing worse IMO. If someone can't be arsed to put a price i can't be arsed to ask, and therefore they loose the chance of a sale!

superscoobx

I know where your coming from but a lot of people dont know the value of item's, for example my carbon bonnet, I really am open to offers on it, I know how much I paid for it, and what i think its worth. But the first decent off gets it.

Its not that I cant be arsed, its the fact that its down to personal opinion on what its worth, sometimes this may put you off more than not having a price.

Too Cheap = something wrong.
Too expensive = Not good value.

[MikeyB]

I think the reason people do this is because they think they may get more than they want if they open it to offers....

If it doesn't have a price on, I too ignore it.

ScoobyDoo555

Most forums now state that a price has to be included, otherwise it contravenes the T&Cs....

Good idea IMHO - gets to the point for a change!

Dan

[MikeyB]

Good point made. Whats the saying, another mans crap is another mans gold or something....

Obviously your carbon bonnet isn't crap!

ScoobyDoo555

I think it's more so acceptable to say "offers around".......

Then you've got a guide price

Dan

Gear Head

iTrader: (2)

Precisely. It's called supply and demand.
What is worth £0.01 to someone might be worth £30 to someone else.
I think that not putting a price is actually a 'good' idea. People always offer less than the asking price which pisses me off even more!








(I do the same though )

MattW

I understand the point but how many times have you seen a whole load of "you must be barking to expect that" type posts. That is what puts people off.

If I sell something I try and put a price that I subjectively would pay for it rather than what I actually want for it. You have to balance it against letting it gather dust in a cupboard somewhere. That of course doesn't apply if you are selling because of a necessity to realise some cash.

Granted many people want to make as much money as possible.

madisonmonkey

iTrader: (4)

You're not supposed to ask for a price, you're supposed to make an offer
I realise this might take a big chunk of time out of your busy day...

I also have a bonnet for sale. I know what it cost me but don't have a clue what it's worth to anyone else so it's open to offers.

Sorry if my listing has ruined your shopping experience

B0DSKI

iTrader: (17)

Not so much as chunk of time out of my day i just consider it a lazy way of selling something.

I work in sales and i'd never ask someone to "Make me a offer" Without first stating a base price to work from

Gear Head

iTrader: (2)

Don't apologise mate. The people complaining know how much something is worth, they just don't want to pay that amount.

madisonmonkey

iTrader: (4)

So we should go through that whole "ask for more than you really want so then they can knock you down and think they got a bargain" system?
Now that really is a waste of time.
But I don't work in sales so what would I know....

AndyC_772

iTrader: (2)

Well, of course they do. Why shouldn't they?

There seems to be a bizarre unwritten rule which says that trades taking place between people on an internet forum should always be skewed in favour of the buyer getting a bargain, and that anyone not prepared to part with something for rock bottom price is automatically deemed to be in the wrong.

I don't subscribe to this idea at all. Why should any seller be expected to do anyone a favour by letting items go for less than someone might be prepared to pay? Why shouldn't they have just as much right to hope for a good (ie. high) price as a potential buyer hopes for a bargain?

Suppose I have something taking up space in my garage that I want to sell. I might put it up for £25, and feel obligated to sell it to the first person who says 'OK' - thereby disappointing someone else who would have paid more but wasn't quite quick enough, and doing myself out of a better price. Why shouldn't I ask for offers, wait a few days, then pick the best one and sell at that price?

Shame there's no word similar to 'bargain', but referring to the seller getting a good deal rather than the buyer. Instead there's only 'rip-off'.

PaulC72

Another way of looking at it would be if something is open to offers why not offer what you want to pay for it instead of just not bothering at all sometimes you may get a better deal if your offer is lower.

MattW

Maybe I should have said:

Granted some people are just plain greedy.

I was attempting to describe the scenario where a seller puts too high a price and gets no interest.

+Doc+

Something is only worth what people are prepared to pay for it.
Putting "offers" lets the buyer decide what he would like to pay.
I roughly know what my wheels are worth however I would think I wont get what they are fully worth so am prepared to take offers as close to that amount as dammit.

AndyC_772

iTrader: (2)

I think this is the one-sidedness that I'm getting at, though. Why should a seller looking for a good deal be denounced as 'greedy' (ie. a "bad thing", while a buyer looking for a good deal is a 'bargain hunter' (ie. a "good thing").

By definition, any item is worth what someone will pay for it. So why should someone feel compelled, or expected, to offer an item at a bargain price that guarantees a sale, rather than offering it at a high price to see if someone is prepared to pay it? Or, better still, inviting offers to find out what the item is really worth?

MattW

No the buyer is called a cheapskate

pauld37

Bit different from selling a few bits and bobs on SN

jonny gav

iTrader: (1)

couldn't agree more, open to offers translated means "offer me more than its worth"

i never reply to them even if its something i really want!

p@ul

No it doesnt,i have a prodrive exhaust i put on there yesterday
Now ive put open to offers because i genuinely dont have a clue what they are worth?
If someone would like to enlighten me i will gladly put the price in and yes i tryed the search thing yesterday and today to find approximate value but it isnt working

jonny gav

iTrader: (1)

around £220 would be a fair price

B0DSKI

iTrader: (17)

U said it

B0DSKI

iTrader: (17)

True but still equates to the same thing

turbogav

Totally agree with this. Posts without a price should be removed IMO, as said gets straight to the point.

Aaron1978

iTrader: (12)

i agree and disagree, i have sold things with a price on before when i knew what they were worth, and also make me an offer too because i didn't.
now if i put a price on something and its not right then there is the people that'll will start posting '' i've seen one of those sell cheaper than that a few weeks ago etc etc", so i think it works both ways.
If i buy something myself i try to find out what its worth anyway and i'm sure most people do regardless if it has a price on or not, how often do you see a price and the next post says ''i'll give x amount for it", now if people don't want asking for offers allowed don't make an offer when there is a price, after someone has spent their time giving it a value. ready to be flame grilled

TonyF

Sorry to say, only brought two items are on here and neither were "as described " when they arrived and the box was opened. One turned out to be nothing like what the seller assured me he had and the second wasn't even the model he had named and linked in the sale
And before anyone asks I couldn't be bother with the hassle of trying to get my money back and return them.....just means I won't buy from anyone on Snet unless it's someone I know!

cookstar

iTrader: (6)

For those that said they dont know what yout item is worth, then how do you know what offer you will be happy to accept?

There is always a figure in your mind what you will take

stoneface

iTrader: (6)

Very true!
I also never look twice at ads not stating a price, i have enquired in the past and they generally expect an ott price.