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Old 16 January 2008, 11:53 AM
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guys was driving into work this morning, and was behined a fellow classic owner,

we were sitting in traffic and as it went clear he put his foot down, there was a little condensation and as he hit what i assume was boost a puff of black smoke came out!!!

what would cause this would it be over fueling or the turbo on the way out etc etc, just i wonder how many of us drive around looking forward not noticing what is coming out of the rear.

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Old 16 January 2008, 12:38 PM
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Black is fuel, so too rich, most engines (not sure about the EJ) start producing black smoke rich of 9:1, probably a combined result of cold enrichmnet and a big transient compensaion from flooring it, plus some dodgy mods!

(white is condensation, blue is oil)

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Old 16 January 2008, 01:25 PM
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dodgy mods!!!

such as?

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Old 16 January 2008, 02:14 PM
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also i gather over fueling is better than under fueling

but would this cause any long term damage to the engine and turbo?

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Old 16 January 2008, 02:40 PM
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Condensation means the engine was still cold, black smoke probably means he booted it, Mmm - bad boy!
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Old 16 January 2008, 03:07 PM
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overfuelling is a bit safer than underfuelling but it still isnt safe as it can cause bore wash which means petrol gets in with the oil and then the engine is lubed with this oil petrol mix. Long term not very healthy!!
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ok what about the previous comment

dodgy mods!

what could be dodgy to cause this

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Old 16 January 2008, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by The rookie
Black is fuel, so too rich, most engines (not sure about the EJ) start producing black smoke rich of 9:1, probably a combined result of cold enrichmnet and a big transient compensaion from flooring it, plus some dodgy mods!

(white is condensation, blue is oil)

Simon
Had been wondering about this actually...I get white on startup, after about a minute, then lasts for about 4-5 before going away(more noticable on colder/freezing mornings obviously). Glad to know its just condensation, I did hope thats all it was, but was going to get it checked out to be on the safe side.

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Old 16 January 2008, 05:29 PM
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sorry, just to add to comment above...that is with it standing in the drive ticking over, not booting it. usually let the car heat up before I even move it.
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